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  • nerobro
    Registered User
    • Oct 2001
    • 923

    #1

    Spyder eyes, with video... (or Nero versus traffic)

    Well guys, we finally put a F/A chip in the gun to demonstrate just how fast this gun can go. You can hear the halo spring wind down as it fires.

    the boards ARE for sale.

    4-99bps
    adjustable sear dwell
    adjustable debounce
    optional eyes

    First video. Listen for the halo spring unwinding. With Z-code. 314159 fireing.

    Seccond video. Also listen for the halo spring unwinding. Non z-code. 314159 fireing.

    More Z code video to come later.


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    Last edited by nerobro; 02-03-2004, 01:28 PM.
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  • PissedGodzilla
    Killswitch Engaged....
    • Jul 2003
    • 618

    #2
    okay! How would you get this board, and is it compatible with the Icon?


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    • trevorjk
      <S>WooLooLoo</S>
      • Dec 2002
      • 4324

      #3
      thats purdy fast for a spyder
      t33kyboy "So if a cat is dropped from 11 inches, it will most likely die."

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      • nerobro
        Registered User
        • Oct 2001
        • 923

        #4
        it's fast for anything. dont' say "for a spyder" :-)

        the boards are cappable of driving anything with one solinoid. They are direct fits for kingman e-guns. We don't support any other installs. But... lemmie put it this way. The board is going into a timmy and angel in a week or two ;-)

        to put it more clearly. Yes it will work in your icon. no we won't support it. yes we will sell you a wireing harness to hook it up. If it doesn't work, it's your money, not ours. :-)
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        • PissedGodzilla
          Killswitch Engaged....
          • Jul 2003
          • 618

          #5
          it's an esp frame on the Icon, so i don't think I should have a problem... I'll take a chance.... to let my marker shoot like that... I'll definitely take that chance.... How do i buy?!?


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          • RRfireblade

            • Jun 2002
            • 5103

            #6
            Re: Spyder eyes, with video... (or Nero versus traffic)

            Originally posted by nerobro Listen for the halo spring unwinding.
            So does that mean the Halo will only feed 15bps continuously?
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            • Jack & Coke
              TUNAMAX No. 1
              • Jul 2002
              • 2644

              #7
              Look great!

              more pics please!

              (detail of your work)

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              • Top Secret
                IPR's E-Maggot
                • Jun 2001
                • 601

                #8
                I got to shoot the prototype board at IAO. Unbelieveably fast.
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                • RoadDawg
                  Degeneration X is back
                  • May 2001
                  • 4023

                  #9
                  Re: Re: Spyder eyes, with video... (or Nero versus traffic)

                  Originally posted by RRfireblade


                  So does that mean the Halo will only feed 15bps continuously?
                  I'm not sure if it's 15 continiously but when TK was out here at the AO CA meet we were out shooting halo B's with Z code with Flyboy's & Skirts Xmags w/4.0. The halo's fast rate is the initial burst but eventually goes down to a slower speed.

                  Looks quick. Doesn't look like the bolt is moving all the time.
                  Sorry, I'm old

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                  • trevorjk
                    <S>WooLooLoo</S>
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 4324

                    #10
                    yeah yeah i know its fast... but doesnt the spyder have a limit to how fast it can shoot becuase its basically tripping a sear? or correct me if im wrong
                    t33kyboy "So if a cat is dropped from 11 inches, it will most likely die."

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                    • nerobro
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 923

                      #11
                      yes, it does have a limit. That limit is about 50bps. The gun cycles in about 20ms. So do the math from there. That's signifigantly faster than the ram driven guns out there.

                      The Eye position is a little low in this particular setup. We're toying with ideas to crank up the rof some more.

                      Odyssey claims the halo tops out at 50, and as the spring unwinds it drops down to 22.5. That was with fresh, albiet cheap batterys. And the stock spring. Who wants to do a ROF analysis on the first 10 shots or so out of the gun?

                      As for the bolt not looking like it's moving, you'd need a camera running at signifigantly more fps than my little camera will do. I'm getting something like 16 or 20fps. The bolt moves JUST THAT FAST that the camera misses it most of the time.

                      Oh yea, the gun is 100% stock internally. No fancy tricks, no polishing, no new valves.... nada.

                      jack&coke, here's a link for yaThe link to the pictures...
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                      • RRfireblade

                        • Jun 2002
                        • 5103

                        #12
                        Re: Re: Re: Spyder eyes, with video... (or Nero versus traffic)

                        Originally posted by RoadDawg


                        I'm not sure if it's 15 continiously but when TK was out here at the AO CA meet we were out shooting halo B's with Z code with Flyboy's & Skirts Xmags w/4.0. The halo's fast rate is the initial burst but eventually goes down to a slower speed.
                        I beleive the burst rate is in the 30's+ according to Odyssey.The are capable of 21+ continuously based on my own use.

                        I was just being facetous in my statement,meaning the vids show about 17-18bps and level out to 15bps.
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                        • nerobro
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 923

                          #13
                          Then that means the eyes are slowing us down. :-/ we were getting a nice 22 pre-eyes. time to rethink the eye setup.
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                          • RRfireblade

                            • Jun 2002
                            • 5103

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nerobro
                            Then that means the eyes are slowing us down. :-/ we were getting a nice 22 pre-eyes. time to rethink the eye setup.
                            22 would be sweet,I'd like to se that.Keep us posted.:)
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                            • nippinout
                              FUSP
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 1231

                              #15
                              nero, might want to check this out. HALO hot-rodding

                              It's a little strange that the eyes add so much lag. Let me look at your code.
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