What I want in an anti-tank cannon.

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  • Smakman
    Registered User
    • Nov 2003
    • 152

    #1

    What I want in an anti-tank cannon.

    I have been searching the internet to see if I can find where someone has built a cannon like what I have in mind. So far, I have found a few that were close, but none that were just what I would want. Here are the criteria that I am looking for.

    COMPACTNESS. I want it small enough and light enough that it isn't overly burdensome to carry along with other equipment for extended periods of time. I think a design with the barrel inside the pressure chamber and a piston valve might work best for this. Or a short barrel with a relatively short pressure chamber configured in-line.

    SPEED. I want it to have a triggered valve that will dump air into the barrel quickly. The faster the valve opens, the lower the pressure required to launch the load. A hand operated ball valve is simply not fast enough unless the shooter sacrifices accuracy to slap the valve open as quickly as possible. Sprinkler valves work fairly well, but are still somewhat bulky when using a 2" bore cannon. If only someone made a 1/4" sprinker valve!

    AIR SOURCE. I don't want to have to use or carry a seperate air source to power it if there is another way. My idea on this is to mount a good quality bicycle pump to it. They now make bicycle pumps that will pump up to 135 psi, far more than required to shoot a 2" foam rocket. If a CO2 source is used, I would want it mounted in-line with the pressure chamber, and regulated so as to automatically repressurize the chamber to the proper psi after the valve closes.

    Cosmetics. Not as important, but it does need to look kind of cool and realistic. I prefer the look of a LAW.

    Any more suggestions?
    Safety, honesty, fun.......in that order! SMAK ZONE PAINTBALL Home of The Spring Fling, Operation: Eminent Storm, The Fire Fall Objective, and The Christmas Clash

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  • p8ntball72
    www.southwestvoodoo.com
    • Nov 2002
    • 467

    #2
    check out..

    lots of info on air cannons.

    the one i built runs at 60 psi on a 12 gram.
    will launch a nurf rocket 60-80 yards if i run 100 psi.
    Originally posted by AGD
    "No we don't install these things, there are no instructions and the box really sucks."

    www.southwestvoodoo.com

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    • TheTramp
      Registered User
      • Jan 2001
      • 4019

      #3
      As soon as I can get them hosted, I'll post some of mine and give the specs to give you some ideas.
      "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
      -Charlie Papazian

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      • Smakman
        Registered User
        • Nov 2003
        • 152

        #4
        Thanks. Wow, some neat stuff on x-inventions.
        Safety, honesty, fun.......in that order! SMAK ZONE PAINTBALL Home of The Spring Fling, Operation: Eminent Storm, The Fire Fall Objective, and The Christmas Clash

        CLICK HERE TO GET REAL DOG TAGS CUSTOM MADE FOR YOUR TEAM!

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        • TheTramp
          Registered User
          • Jan 2001
          • 4019

          #5
          Here's mine:

          "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
          -Charlie Papazian

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          • doc_Zox
            Team Dead by Dawn
            • Jun 2003
            • 723

            #6
            heres the basic 12 gram LAWS guts:


            heres the barrel:


            you need ~2 feet of barrel to make a 75 yard punt

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            • tjmpaintball06
              Mags+Mustang Cobras=Pwnage
              • Mar 2004
              • 162

              #7
              i will build you a cannon to your specs. I use a sprinkler valve to fire. Any size expansion chamber is possible but i prefer a 6 inch galvanized pipe with a 12 gram quick change adaptor. It automatically fills the expansion chamber and propels 30 balls great. If you want a U type i can do that too. Just e-mail me at [email protected] for details. Prices vary for different options.

              Thanks:)

              "Thats 95 inches of PURE FRICKING DEATH!"

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              • Rhinopkc
                Registered User
                • Dec 2002
                • 77

                #8

                I have one of their's, it is by far the best I have seen. I have made several of my own that work really well, but for size to performance, BP's is the best.
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                • Smakman
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 152

                  #9
                  Yep, that what I am talking about, but what a price tag!
                  Safety, honesty, fun.......in that order! SMAK ZONE PAINTBALL Home of The Spring Fling, Operation: Eminent Storm, The Fire Fall Objective, and The Christmas Clash

                  CLICK HERE TO GET REAL DOG TAGS CUSTOM MADE FOR YOUR TEAM!

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                  • doc_Zox
                    Team Dead by Dawn
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 723

                    #10
                    i've been waiting for someone to review the Blackpoint online

                    how does it work?

                    can you adjust the velocity?
                    hows the breech open?

                    what sort of valve does it run?

                    any batteries?

                    dZ

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                    • kemikos
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 84

                      #11
                      Here's one...

                      So I picked this one up on Ebay as a collector's item... Unfortunately, the barrel was destroyed in shipping. Fortunately, I was able to rebuild it into a pretty darn nice Nerf tosser... :)

                      This is my USI Destroyer.

                      This picture shows the whole launcher. It's fairly compact - I've seen smaller 12-gram cannons, but most are significantly larger than this. The BP LAW is at least twice as long... (Incidentally, it came with a holster, albeit a pretty big one. That's right, this baby's holsterable!)

                      It's basically a "ball valve" style PVC launcher with an ingenious trigger system that releases the spring-loaded valve lever. Here's a shot with the valve closed...


                      I'm surprised how well it shoots, considering the barrel is pretty short (the tail of the Nerf round sits at about the middle of the white repaired area - you can push the Nerf in all the way without a ramrod). Currently it shoots well over the legal limit; I estimate I should be able to get 3 full-power shots from a 12-gram once I add a regulator for better velocity control...

                      Anyway, that's my new toy...
                      Everybody else seems to have a picture of their 'Mag in their sig, so what the heck; here's mine:

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                      • doc_Zox
                        Team Dead by Dawn
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 723

                        #12
                        thats pretty impressive performance for a 12 gram

                        it looks like the vortex only seals the last 3 inches of the barrel

                        will it sail a nerf 75 yards?

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                        • Rhinopkc
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 77

                          #13
                          Originally posted by doc_Zox
                          i've been waiting for someone to review the Blackpoint online

                          how does it work?
                          Overall function of the unit is very good, it's just like shooting a gun, pull the trigger and it fires. It is very dependable, I have had no malfunctions.

                          can you adjust the velocity?
                          Yes, there is a knob on the front of the unit to control velocity with.

                          hows the breech open?
                          There is a button under the barrel, at the front of the launcher. The unit can be opened by grasping the top of the barrel, pressing this button with your index finger, and sliding the barrel forward about 1/2 inch. The barrel then tips forward and the rocket is inserted into the breech. There is nothing to cock, so as soon as you close the breech, the unit is ready to fire again. After familiarizing yourself with the unit, you can easily fire a rocket effectively every 10 seconds.

                          what sort of valve does it run?
                          I am not sure, but I think it's either a piston or a diaphragm valve

                          any batteries?
                          no, the valve is pneumatically actuated

                          dZ
                          The only gripe I have is that the launcher was not prepped right before paint, after 1 scenario game, the paint is sliding off of the launcher.
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                          • doc_Zox
                            Team Dead by Dawn
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 723

                            #14
                            it appears to be a high pressure design

                            a piston valve is usually a low pressure high volume affair

                            i would bet if you wrote up a review War Pig would publish it

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                            • Rhinopkc
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 77

                              #15
                              If constructed properly, a piston valve can be used at any pressure. The launcher has a built-in reg, so it could be operating at a lower pressure, I don't know where to install a gauge. A piston valve is probably overkill for this application, I think the launcher utilizes a diaphragm valve.
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