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  • Chojin Man
    toodle
    • Dec 2003
    • 1229

    #1

    No More Non-WGP Cockers?

    From what I took from the article they are trying to stop the sale of all "knockoff" cockers. K2 is claiming that the cocker design is their "acquired intellectual property" since they bought WGP(duh). So what kind of cockers is this going to appy too?

    acticle.
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    Last edited by Chojin Man; 05-07-2004, 11:06 AM.
  • Gideon1331
    Im back for now...
    • Sep 2003
    • 3255

    #2
    this in turn means that only good plastic cockers will be made :)

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    • Dayspring
      aka- The Day Wang

      • May 2001
      • 9664

      #3
      Means unless System X is using WGP bodies, they're not going to be making cocker knock-offs. Same goes for National Paintball's version.

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      • Deep Sixx
        Registered User
        • Dec 2002
        • 345

        #4
        I'm not a lawyer by any means, but seeing as how WGP didn't invent it, I don't see how they can claim ownership.

        sixx
        Henry
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        • Cryer
          Paintball is over.
          • Nov 2002
          • 4105

          #5
          So likely, FF, Planet Eclipse, and the like will still have their custom house lines. I think they're mainly talking about clones. CCM might have to change a few things. Dragun, too.

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          • Chojin Man
            toodle
            • Dec 2003
            • 1229

            #6
            Originally posted by Deep Sixx
            I'm not a lawyer by any means, but seeing as how WGP didn't invent it, I don't see how they can claim ownership.

            sixx
            Then who did?
            Last edited by Chojin Man; 05-07-2004, 11:04 AM.

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            • Fred
              AO Zealot
              • Feb 2002
              • 2624

              #7
              Glenn Palmer invented pneumatic automation for paintball markers...

              Bud just implemented it on his Sniper pump marker and marketed the heck out of it.

              Palmer stuck with his own thing, quality custom markers, Typhoon, Blazer, etc...

              Yay, maybe now Sys-X's POS markers will get pulled from the market... they're junk.

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              • Cryer
                Paintball is over.
                • Nov 2002
                • 4105

                #8
                o BTW, Chojin your link doesnt work... :)

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                • Chojin Man
                  toodle
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 1229

                  #9
                  whoops. Fixed it. Thanks Cryer.

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                  • spantol
                    Turgid Member
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 1024

                    #10
                    I was under the impression that WGP's autococking system wasn't patented (and indeed, a quick USPTO search for "orr" and "paintball" doesn't yield much). I'd assume, then, that this means they're going to be more vigorous in protecting their trademarks--the terms "Cocker" and "Autococker."

                    Originally posted by Chojin Man
                    From what I took from the article they are trying to stop the sale of all "knockoff" cockers. K2 is claiming that the cocker design is their "acquired intellectual property" since they bought WGP(duh). So what kind of cockers is this going to appy too?

                    acticle.

                    Loaded 2004 BKO For Sale

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                    • Deep Sixx
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 345

                      #11
                      Originally posted by spantol
                      I was under the impression that WGP's autococking system wasn't patented (and indeed, a quick USPTO search for "orr" and "paintball" doesn't yield much). I'd assume, then, that this means they're going to be more vigorous in protecting their trademarks--the terms "Cocker" and "Autococker."
                      It's not patented, because Orr didn't design it... as has been said, Glenn Palmer did. As for the word "Autococker", it is a trademark of WGP... "cocker" is not.

                      sixx
                      Henry
                      Storm: Naughty
                      Paint Storm - Empire - Evil

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                      • spantol
                        Turgid Member
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 1024

                        #12
                        Mention that to the USPTO. They're under the impression that WGP has trademarked both terms.

                        Originally posted by Deep Sixx
                        As for the word "Autococker", it is a trademark of WGP... "cocker" is not.

                        sixx

                        Loaded 2004 BKO For Sale

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                        • Deep Sixx
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 345

                          #13
                          Originally posted by spantol
                          Mention that to the USPTO. They're under the impression that WGP has trademarked both terms.
                          hmm... I was always under the impression that the word 'cocker was free and clear. That's why everyone calls their version of it a 'cocker, not an Autococker.

                          Oh well.

                          sixx
                          Henry
                          Storm: Naughty
                          Paint Storm - Empire - Evil

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                          • spantol
                            Turgid Member
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 1024

                            #14
                            It was until relatively recently. WGP got that particular trademark in late 2002.

                            Originally posted by Deep Sixx
                            hmm... I was always under the impression that the word 'cocker was free and clear. That's why everyone calls their version of it a 'cocker, not an Autococker.

                            Oh well.

                            sixx

                            Loaded 2004 BKO For Sale

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                            • logamus
                              Registered Abuser
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 2346

                              #15
                              Originally posted by spantol
                              Mention that to the USPTO. They're under the impression that WGP has trademarked both terms.
                              yet another blow to the adult film industry.


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