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baddy1121
12-13-2001, 03:56 PM
why is there a circle in the middle of the welt that doesn't get a bruise

thlibo
12-13-2001, 10:44 PM
simple physics my good man. Think of it this way:
The first part of the ball that hits you is the rounded, so it caves in immediately, it has nothing but soft squishy paint behind it. On the other hand a fraction of a second later the outer part hits the skin, and it has shell behind it instead of paint. So the middle part hits like a water ballon, while the outer part hits with more shell so it has less 'give' to it.

Another factor (and this is speculation) could be that the shell on the outside when it busts is going to be sharper than in the middle area (you have shell hitting the skin perpedicularly instead of parallel) so it will break more blood vessels under the skin, which is what a bruise is, but I am not sure about that.

Just my thoughts on the question.

AGD
12-13-2001, 11:10 PM
Excellent observation, good question, a little more complicated answer.

The front part of the ball hits you and starts to deform. As it flattens out against your skin (you can see this by pushing it into a table with your thumb) eventually it creates a very tight radius at the edge of the flattened part. At this point of high radius the shell fractures and you now have a paintball full of paint that is acting as a cookie cutter and giving you a ring welt.

Our plastic paintballs are much stiffer but flex very little so they don't flex enough to cause the "ring" in the welt. They just shatter like a potato chip and cause less bruising.

AGD

baddy1121
12-13-2001, 11:15 PM
thanks for all your help

thlibo
12-13-2001, 11:21 PM
Welcome. I guess I have enough experience with them to be an expert on welts :)

hitech
12-17-2001, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by AGD
Our plastic paintballs...

Tom,
I remember you telling me about those plastic paintballs at a tournament about a 100 years ago. Were you ever able to market them?

AGD
12-17-2001, 08:39 PM
We are making the plastic balls two shifts a day. They are all going for police and military.

AGD

hitech
12-18-2001, 11:55 AM
I take it that you haven't been able to gain any kind of acceptance at paintball fields? It seemed to me that you had a superior idea and I for one would like to shoot them. What would it take?

Gunga
01-02-2002, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by hitech
I take it that you haven't been able to gain any kind of acceptance at paintball fields? It seemed to me that you had a superior idea and I for one would like to shoot them. What would it take?

It'd take lots and lots of $$. :) The Perfect Circle paintballs are very expensive. Not lots of volume in comparison to regular paintballs. So low volume = higher prices.

hitech
01-03-2002, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Gunga


It'd take lots and lots of $$. :) The Perfect Circle paintballs are very expensive. Not lots of volume in comparison to regular paintballs. So low volume = higher prices.

Marketing, I always forget marketing. It just seems to me that they are a superior product and "should" out sell lessor products. If only it worked that way...:(

Shaft
01-09-2002, 11:13 AM
I wonder how fields would feel about having to deal with sweeping plastic shells.

oldman
01-12-2002, 07:14 PM
Plastic paintballs....have you tried putting dimples in them like golf balls? And how did they work?

PRO_Ski101
01-12-2002, 08:19 PM
why plastic?what does it do?also,any chance of putting them on the online store?

MAGS own YOU
02-02-2002, 08:46 PM
I got capped of the break today and it didnt pop. When I checked the welt tonight, there was the little white part, then the pink ring around it, then there was another pink ring around it. How did this happen? I didn't get shot 2 times in the same spot.

Dubstar112
02-02-2002, 11:56 PM
Last night on the discovery channel at about 4 in the morning they were showing law enforcment thingys like tazers and paintball pepper balls.. they showed an up close shot of a pepper ball :)

Failure
02-10-2002, 11:45 PM
Was that the episode where they had the nauseating beam laser gun? They also had paintball filling that had a nauseating stench to it when they hit you. My favorite was the gun that shot rubber 'grenade' like pellets. Lol. I bet you didn't see the one I am talking about though.