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  • Deadeye

    #1

    Sad, but I gotta stop playing Paintball

    Hi all,

    It is with a heavy heart that I say this, but I have to stop playing Paintball...and sell my Mag.

    As most of the older members know, I'm in Singapore and with the strict laws with regards to anything resembling a Firearm, it took me forever to get my Mag in.

    As of recently, I've been noticing a lack of customer service with my one and only local field. Add to that, the Major amount of restrictions I have to put up with on when and where I can use my Mag. I'm very disappointed and a little sad.

    When I first embraced this hobby in London of 94, I went all out just praying and hoping that'll come to Singapore. Which it did eventually, with the opening of the first field in Dec 98. The lack of customer relations and poor handling of players led to it's closure a few months after it opened. Then the second and only surviving store now opened up and I found a home. It was fine but there were a few restrictions that had to be followed which were at that time acceptable. Now it has gotten even more...

    FYI, I cannot use my Mag with games that include the public unless it's a private game organised by me...And I cannot admit that the Mag is mine for fear that it'll cause the Police complications. Add to that the extremely high prices I have to pay, for both CA and Paint and usage of the field.

    My permit for my Mag has expired and unless I do something about it [ship out or renew it under the Field Owners name, not mine], it'll be taken and destroyed. I was gonna have it shipped out to the neighbouring island to play at the fields there but they too have closed down...

    So I have finally decided to sell my mag in the hopes that someone else can truly use and appreciate it.

    It has been a heart wrenching decsion that has plagued me the entire time i've been thinking about it.

    I just would like to thank Tom and everyone here and AGD for making the Mag, A CF 48317 PF, a most awesome Paintball Marker in the industry.

    I'll be putting up the specs of the Mag and equipment I'm selling soon on the Buy/Sell forum. It'll include some Revs, a Flatline tank and other access. If ya interested right now, email me and we'll talk.

    Maybe in the future, when the sport has progressed and gotten to be accepted in Singapore, with the no personal marker rule lifted, I might start again, and get a new Mag...I love my mag...I'm gonna miss her.

    I'll see you guys around...Later.
  • HoppysMag
    Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
    • Oct 2001
    • 3494

    #2
    wow that suxs.
    "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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    • Dave
      The Neighborhood Tech
      • Oct 2001
      • 815

      #3
      Man, I cannot truly know how that really feels...having restricted rights like that. It's terrible. How many active paintballers are there in Singapore? Its seems like it would be solution to gather up all paintballers in Singapore and petition for better laws, but I have no idea how the government works over there. I wish I or someone else could just hold your mag for ya until things work out, but if you have to sell it, I am sure it will find a good home.

      -Dave

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      • Bluntman
        Two Tons of Fun
        • Nov 2001
        • 156

        #4
        Why'd you move to Singapore?
        Now that's the ugliest damn bong I've ever seen.

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        • MJS1214
          Registered User
          • Aug 2001
          • 328

          #5
          wow,thats depressing....whats on ur mag and how much,i may be able to ive it a nice home,do u have aim?

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          • FaSSt
            Registered User
            • Feb 2001
            • 658

            #6
            Sucks when you live in a country with oppressive laws...

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            • DarkRipper
              Elite
              • May 2001
              • 1111

              #7
              Unless you're underage, I'd seriously consider moving back to the UK if possible. I'm constantly amazed at the legal horror stories I hear about singapore.


              DR
              Oderint dum metuant

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              • Flamebo
                Registered User
                • Oct 2000
                • 1286

                #8
                Wow, that's a damn shame. It's horrible that your countries' laws have pushed you away from your fun, safe, and harmless hobby. That mag might even have some of the parts from my first mag on it... The twist-lock assembly, if nothing else :o. I hope you'll at least get to borrow equipment and play occasionally if nothing else, or that laws will change enough to let you get a mag back. I'm not sure if it seems ridiculous to move out of country based on a hobby or not, I'm sure it's a beautiful country but the government must be hell.

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                • Webmaster
                  Former Moderator

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 1765

                  #9
                  Seriously....

                  Dont sell it! If you want, I can hold on to if for you until you change locals. You wont be in singapore for ever - right?

                  If you are interested, email me. I can just keep your gun in a corner of the vault until you come back to a more paintball friendly location.

                  Let me know!

                  Problems or questions with the site or your account? Email me: [email protected] I collect old guns and paintball gear. Email me if you have stuff to sell!

                  Paintball Never Dies - www.vintagerex.com

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                  • nutz
                    l0l
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 1412

                    #10
                    hate to see things like this happen
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                    • Deadeye

                      #11
                      MJS 1214, It's got a ton of 'upgrades', mostly cosmetic....See below.

                      Dave, there are a total of 6 Active hardcore Paintballers, all of them are in my team :) However they can't have their own guns...I was really lucky to get mine in...

                      Darkripper, I'm 30, 31 in about 3 weeks.

                      Flamebo, you remembered. And although rentals are still possible, like I said before, the field people are treating me and my team poorly. Lack of willingness to help..etc

                      Webmaster, sounds like an idea...I'll email you...Hope you can handle a long stay.

                      Airgun Designs Level 7 68 Automag Classic Powerfeed
                      Serial number CF48317, specially named 'Angel'
                      Paintball Planet UK Eclipse ICE Splash Automag Kit Upgrade
                      Dye 14in Aluminum Barrel
                      J&J 12in 2-Piece Full Tilt Barrel
                      J&J 16in 2-Piece Full Tilt Barrel
                      Benchmark Double Trigger 45 Frame Black
                      Houge Wraparound 45 Grips
                      Venom Toxic Toys Highline
                      Kapp Tear Drop Forward
                      Kapp Gas Thru Fore Grip
                      CM Support Original VL 12v Revolution in Black and VLBow Clear

                      High Pressure/Compressed Air Set Up;
                      AGD Level 2.0 68ci 3000psi Flatline with Custom Products Adapter

                      CO2 Set Up;
                      PMI Expansion Chamber
                      ACI and Lapco Bottomline ASA
                      20oz CO2 Tank with On/Off valve

                      Extra Accessories;
                      Stock Frame with Double Trigger and VLGroovy Grips
                      Kapp Drop Zone 2 Cradle
                      Diamond Labs Gas Thru Stock
                      Eclipse Sight Rail Black
                      Eclipse Drop Forward Silver
                      BE Gem Series VL 12v Rev's in Ruby Red and Sapphire Blue
                      32 Degrees Gem Bows in Purple and Blue
                      Automag Stock Barrel 10in Black
                      Last edited by Guest; 01-05-2002, 08:49 PM.

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                      • toymyster
                        Team OSIRIS
                        • Dec 2000
                        • 1277

                        #12
                        I'm sorry to hear that!!! It is very unfortunate!!! Also, it's a lesson for all of us, because this can happen anywhere, including right here in the US!!! There are ignorant people here who without ever looking into it, that paintball is "violent", and it "desensitizes people against killing", "promotes use of guns" and a whole lot of other crap like it!!! And of course, want the whole thing banned!!! And it is up to us to get more people involved in the sport, and promote safety and ...
                        Again, Deadye, I'm sorry to hear you have to give up something so near and dear to you!!!
                        E-Mag's on a diet
                        Stay tuned for Pics!!!
                        Centerflag 201 series 68/45

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                        • Rynoboy06
                          Paintball Gholam
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 394

                          #13
                          I don't think we need to worry about the US going like Singapore anytime soon. We still have to be careful, but at least we can stand up for ourselves and our legal rights. The Singapore gov't is very, very strict, and has a pronounced lack of democracy (one-party rule, etc.). All condolences man, but you're not going to find me in Singapore. Interesting book by an ex-Washington Post department head named T.R. Reid (Confucius Lives Next Door)calls Singapore an "enclave where nobody does anything that might offend the governing clique." He also says, and I paraphrase, that the police watch from the rooftops to try to catch anybody who might jaywalk, CHEW GUM, or put a sticker on a street post. I'm suprised they don't just outlaw paintball altogether; it would seem to be more their style. Anyway, I hope something works out for you, but don't hold your breath for Singapore to change. Good luck.
                          AKA Viking #393
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                          • Vegeta
                            Moderator? Mob Boss.
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 1050

                            #14
                            VIVA LOS LOCO REBILIONE'!

                            Take it to the woods man! Import some cases of paint and get it started. I don't know much about singapore terrain but I'm sure you can find a large patch of woods that isn't owned by the govenment. And hell, if you cant.. just be really quie and do use governmet land (animal reserve? park? lol)

                            Someone has to change it. If you can't play now hide your mag under your floorboards or somehting.
                            -Vegeta
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                            • Rynoboy06
                              Paintball Gholam
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 394

                              #15
                              I don't think playing in the "woods" of singapore will work because there's not much to Singapore except the city, Singapore. They were part of Malaysia, but they left decades ago. I guess you could go to malaysia, it's within strinking distance. But don't do it with less than half a tank of gas - that's illegal. You might want to buy gas on the other side and thus not pay Singapore's big gas tax. (also from previously cited book) It's a good idea though, just get your gun and your buddies guns legal again, and play elsewhere.
                              AKA Viking #393
                              AGD RT Pro #948

                              MACHINE & R-I-T BLACK

                              Plymouth Paintball Supply
                              508-732-7202

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