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  • DanMan
    Pneumag owner
    • Dec 2007
    • 378

    #1

    X valve anno fears??

    Why dont more people anno their x vaves like BigEvil. He says it is the dreaded x valve anno!! but why is it so dreaded?
  • KC
    "TheWonderfulBatteryMan"
    • Aug 2004
    • 1812

    #2
    Originally posted by DanMan
    Why dont more people anno their x vaves like BigEvil. He says it is the dreaded x valve anno!! but why is it so dreaded?
    He explained it in the thread your quoting...

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    • Lohman446
      Useful posts: 7
      • Jun 2003
      • 9315

      #3
      Look at the tolerances of the on-off pin - measured to like .762 (or whatever). Look at the tolerances of the LX shim kit. When you are measure in thousands of an inch it does not take much deviation (such as too thick or thin of anno) to throw things off.
      "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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      • BigEvil
        www.BigEvilOnline.com

        • Feb 2005
        • 9333

        #4
        Originally posted by Lohman446
        Look at the tolerances of the on-off pin - measured to like .762 (or whatever). Look at the tolerances of the LX shim kit. When you are measure in thousands of an inch it does not take much deviation (such as too thick or thin of anno) to throw things off.

        ^

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        • Ruler_Mark
          AKAOG.ORG
          • Aug 2007
          • 2600

          #5
          this is why i just did the back half, as that is just a regulator with all air passages sealedwith o-rings. I feel alot less of a risk vs doing the whole valve.

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          • pmstc
            free at last
            • Jan 2008
            • 404

            #6
            Originally posted by DanMan
            Why dont more people anno their x vaves like BigEvil. He says it is the dreaded x valve anno!! but why is it so dreaded?
            ITS A CONSPIRACY SPARKED BY AGD TO MAKE YOUR GUNS LOOK BAD

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            • jade_monkey07
              Cheater Tac one
              • Dec 2006
              • 984

              #7
              Originally posted by pmstc
              ITS A CONSPIRACY SPARKED BY AGD TO MAKE YOUR GUNS LOOK BAD
              lol i blame the mexicans...or the canadians!...wait i am canadian?

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              • BAZOOKA_Boy
                Anodizer

                • Jun 2007
                • 227

                #8
                I don't know why people don't do it more, though I would not suggest getting it annoed more than once, but if you do it right, it will have no problems what so ever, like my X (which did not turn out exactly as I wanted it, but hey, I was experimenting on my annos on this gun believe it or not. It looks a lot better matching that it would have all black!)



                (I really need new pics...)

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                • Ruler_Mark
                  AKAOG.ORG
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 2600

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BAZOOKA_Boy
                  I don't know why people don't do it more, though I would not suggest getting it annoed more than once, but if you do it right, it will have no problems what so ever, like my X (which did not turn out exactly as I wanted it, but hey, I was experimenting on my annos on this gun believe it or not. It looks a lot better matching that it would have all black!)



                  (I really need new pics...)






                  High res:



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                  • DanMan
                    Pneumag owner
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 378

                    #10
                    There is no way to seal off the inside? (I dont know alot about annoing so this might be a stupid question). Baooka that is an awesome anno! I want to try that with red!

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                    • BAZOOKA_Boy
                      Anodizer

                      • Jun 2007
                      • 227

                      #11
                      ok, better pics of it...maybe I will take some of the inside of the valve...though that means I have to get up, I just got off of work so thats not happening for like another hour or so...lol





                      oh yea, I also did something a little different with the grips, I just need to make a clear hall sensor holder, and a clear (or trans blue) selector, and I will be finished!

                      oh, and to why the X is dreaded to be annoed, tolerances are so tight that stripping the anno will make it leak, but if you put a very thick layer back on to compensate for some if not all of the stripped metal, then there are no worries!

                      and to your question, there is a way, silicon to plug it, though if its not cleaned perfectly when the silicon plug goes in, it will leak and ruin the valve, the major issue places though are easy to mask with a simple couple of corks, maybe a little silicon to get the blow off hole in the front of the valve, but the back can be annoed no problem as Ruler_Mark stated earlier!
                      Last edited by BAZOOKA_Boy; 03-12-2008, 05:05 PM.

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                      • DanMan
                        Pneumag owner
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 378

                        #12
                        what tolerances are on the outside of the valve? (again possible noob question sorry)

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                        • BAZOOKA_Boy
                          Anodizer

                          • Jun 2007
                          • 227

                          #13
                          the tolerances that are truly important are on the inside of the valve, though I did not plug anything, it has less of a chance of ruining the valve if I just strip and redo the whole thing IMO, because if the plugs leak, you will have major pitting, and a useless X valve...

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                          • DanMan
                            Pneumag owner
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 378

                            #14
                            so technically if you could plug everything and knew that it would not leak then it would be a piece of cake?

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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #15
                              Theoretically annoing it is not a problem. Stripping the anno off, and then adding new anno may throw out tolerances and cause issues.

                              Its one of those things, do you want to gamble with a $300 part?
                              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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