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  • knownothingmags
    RKM 3D Designs

    • Apr 2010
    • 4810

    #1

    guaging interest in ZAP sleeper type setup

    * frames i do not own and will need test frames.
    ** dont have and may take more time to spec out
    1st off.
    if i do a Zap the mad's type sleeper
    would anyone think this would be a problem?

    2nd off.

    i will be making this out of aluminum
    it will be a direct drop in for all frames listed
    m90
    inteli frame
    z-grip
    ** Dye Ultralight Frame.
    *RPG chimera
    *RPG triton
    *logic
    *powerlyte grip styx
    *y-grip
    Single trigger?
    any others you can think let me know, and ill add them to the test platform.

    this will use either a delrin ram or a SS 1/4'' ram, not sure yet.
    i may use magnets instead of any type of springs. still not sure on that.
    i figure magnet less bind?:)
    i may use a delrin trigger rod not sure yet.

    let me know your thoughts.

    these will all be hand made with my machines and hands and tested(NOT outsourced.).
    im thinking of trying to do a few newer internals.

    any machinists out there that have any and all input on this feel free to criticise and such. or support, suggest, what have you.

    anyone else feel free to do the same.

    oh and let me know your interest.
    thankyou,
    KNM.
    Last edited by knownothingmags; 01-25-2012, 04:35 PM.
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  • vf-xx
    Henchmen Inc.
    • Nov 2001
    • 3311

    #2
    Whatever you end up doing make units first, then sell. No pre-orders.
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    • Frizzle Fry
      AO Micromag Guy
      • Mar 2009
      • 3280

      #3
      Originally posted by vf-xx
      Whatever you end up doing make units first, then sell. No pre-orders.
      +1

      I'd probably buy one if it fit a Powerlyte frame.

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      • knownothingmags
        RKM 3D Designs

        • Apr 2010
        • 4810

        #4
        yeah no preorders here.
        ima just make on request.
        of course ill make sure this is tested.

        ill make them as long as i can stomach the repeated work.
        so once i get the nitches worked out ill start producing.

        Fry:
        powerlyte.
        mag frame or moded to a mag?
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        • Frizzle Fry
          AO Micromag Guy
          • Mar 2009
          • 3280

          #5
          Originally posted by knownothingmags
          yeah no preorders here.
          ima just make on request.
          of course ill make sure this is tested.

          ill make them as long as i can stomach the repeated work.
          so once i get the nitches worked out ill start producing.

          Fry:
          powerlyte.
          mag frame or moded to a mag?
          Powerlyte GripStyx mag frame.

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          • bbotts77
            Dirty Frank
            • Oct 2009
            • 558

            #6
            I might be interested in one if the price is right (or I have money) when you have some made.

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            • OPBN
              OldPBNoob

              • Sep 2008
              • 5240

              #7
              I would think there would be a fair amount of interest as long as they were tested and endorsed by someone well known here. You also have to take into consideration that some people on this site may still be waiting to get their gear and/or money back from Zap.

              As always, pricing is a big factor as well.
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              • knownothingmags
                RKM 3D Designs

                • Apr 2010
                • 4810

                #8
                Originally posted by OPBN
                You also have to take into consideration that some people on this site may still be waiting to get their gear and/or money back from Zap.

                As always, pricing is a big factor as well.
                yeah i was thinking about this issue.

                working on getting one started tonight for test runs.
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                • OPBN
                  OldPBNoob

                  • Sep 2008
                  • 5240

                  #9
                  I also didnt think this was a hand drill/dremel job. I thought some machining equipment was necessary for a good product? I had one of these for a short time and the miling seemed pretty precise, not something I felt capable of doing. I also never quite understood how it really worked though, so that might have been part of the problem.
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                  • knownothingmags
                    RKM 3D Designs

                    • Apr 2010
                    • 4810

                    #10
                    Originally posted by OPBN
                    I also didnt think this was a hand drill/dremel job. I thought some machining equipment was necessary for a good product? I had one of these for a short time and the miling seemed pretty precise, not something I felt capable of doing. I also never quite understood how it really worked though, so that might have been part of the problem.
                    oh yeah the hand made part is in turn i will be using my machines to make them.
                    sorry didnt specify.
                    i will not be outsourcing this product.
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                    • Ando
                      Magusmaximus
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 4144

                      #11
                      Actually...He made these by hand if i'm not mistaken. A drill press and brass stock.
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                      • Imasho
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 96

                        #12
                        I would be down for 1

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                        • knownothingmags
                          RKM 3D Designs

                          • Apr 2010
                          • 4810

                          #13
                          yeah i intend to use my press , blade runner and aluminum blocks and ss rod, taps, files etc.
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                          • TimmyJay
                            I came to play...not talk
                            • May 2007
                            • 779

                            #14
                            I am interested in knowing more as I'm not familiar with this mod. I have a Triton frame that I may be willing to send as a tester. Please post more details or a design.

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                            • Ando
                              Magusmaximus
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 4144

                              #15
                              All the info you need

                              http://automags.org/forums/search.php?searchid=3881307
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