U Guys dont know how lucky U are!

[Knackers]

I have just been reading a few of your posts. In Australia we have to have a licence for paintball markers, they wont allow Markers in Victoria, Tasmainia or Western Australia! The main reason for this is some knobend in Tassie decided to run rampent with a semi auto ( real gun ) and did what your Postal workers do killing 20 odd ppl.
So our Pollies decided in their wisdom to BAN all semi auto's.( it was almost going to be all guns!)
Luck has it that Polititions know jack-a-roo about Paintball. But that doesn't stop Customs barking like a big red roo when ever they see an Angel arriving into the Country.
we also need to have a gun licence to own a Marker.
If we want to play a tourney in New South Wales (the state that Sydney is in 4 those who dont know where N.S.W is)(I live in Queensland 12 hours drive north) We have to get a Gun dealer to transport the guns to a dealer in N.S.W b4 the tourney. there is a bloody good chance that they will loose them scratch or generally no take care of them.
So Next time you guys play interstate in the U.S think of Knackers over here in Aussie packing his Mag neatly into a foam filled case along with his $200 Smart parts barrel, just so that some piss-ant Dealer in N.S.W can start pulling the thing to bits to see how it all works cos he has never seen one b4.


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[This message has been edited by Army (edited 08-21-2001).]

[toymyster]

I know about australia and their stupid laws!!! Talking about going too far!!!! I'm sorry for you, bro!!! Do what you can, and vote for people who'll try to change it!!! Hang in there!!!

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[shartley]

Yes, we had a nice discussion on AU laws here on AO about a month ago. It was rather interesting....

http://www.automags.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004689.html

[slayer]

If they ban all guns in the US, then I am permanently moving to a different country.

[mykroft]

They came bloody close to banning paintball in Canada last spring, due to a typo of all things. An amendment to Bill C-15 would of classified Paintballs at firarms, and it's illegal to point a firearm at someone in Canada. We had the typo fixed, thank goodness.

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[Hasty8]

First of all, there is no way all guns would ever be revoked here in America. The Second Amendment sees to that. As for moving to another country, why? America has some of the most lenient gun laws in all of the First World countries.

As for Australia, there is a perfect example of why modern gun controls do not work. They only hinder the legal owner and do nothing to stop the illegal owner. I, as a legal gun ownder in America, would fully stand behind gun control if it was federally mandated. As long as you have one state with gun laws that are much more lax then andothers you will always have illegal gun ownership.

I fully support a 14 day waiting period. What is so important that you have to have that gun right now?

However, while I do support clip limits I do not in anyway support a ban on semi or full auto guns in private ownership. My reason is again based upon the 2nd Ammendment which states that in order to prevent against a rulership turned dictatorial the right of Americans the keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Basiclly, our wise forefathers were giving us a way to prtect ourselves if the ruling class went wacko.

That means that the populace should be, or have access to, weapons of similar quality and capacity as the standing army. Does that mean that I think that every Tom, Dick and Harry should have thermos? Of course not.

In order to maintain out rights we pay the price of eternal vigilance.

[Webmaster]

I fully realize how lucky I am. Thats why I am a member of the NRA to preserve my rights. And I take the time to be an advocate for our sport when needed to fight proposed legislation against paintball.

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[jas142]

I feel bad for people in Australia, but us Americans really have to not be idiots when it comes to guns and paintball. Stupid people going to walmart and buying a BE gun just so he can go drive around in his car shooting at random people WILL get our sport BANNED! (My county has had SEVERAL incidents of people doing random paintball drive by's )

[shartley]

[MagMan5446]

Hmm....I'm going to Australia in a year, I guess I can't bring my mag.

I realize how lucky I am to even live in this country.

[DarkPhoenix]

It is not that it is Brass Eagle's fault, their cheap markers have introduced many people into our sport. As for the selling of the higher end markers in either Wal-mart or K-mart is highly unlikely, simply because they are more expensive. If either of the two stores decided to sell the higher end markers vice Brass Eagle, the rate of drive-by type paintball assaults would theoretically drop, because most of the people who do that type of thing don't play the sport, they just buy the cheap marker to get the thrill. Now remember, I said most, those players who do decide to do random acts of violence with their paintball guns need to be punished even worse than those who do it for kicks, simply because they know better.

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[Knackers]

The only thing our gun laws have done is take the Regestered gus out of the law abideing citizens, all it was was a smokescreen to make out that they were doing something about the problem.
It did stuffall about the nutcase that has just been showen the door from the loonie bin, grabing his older brother (Billybob)Unregesterd Semi auto and running riot!

Ps: u can check with Australian customs Magman5446 about bringing your marker in to the country, But it will probably only be useful in Queensland Good luck though!

Dont get me wrong though Australia is a great place to live, Stuff all crime, I can leave the keys in my car and go into a shop and the car will still b there 2 hours later. I just pisses me off that I find it bloody hard to get around the country with a bloody Paintball marker, when it comes down to it it's a TOY!


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[st6212]

Hi Knackers,

I'm in WA.....and YOU think you have a hard time???!!!

Anyway.....good news is legistlation has been put through for WA to be fully legalised the way it ought to be.

Will know more towards the end of the year.

MagMan5446, Australia is a great place to live and yes, it takes a bit of work to get a mag into Australia....but not impossible.

Best way is to have it pulled apart into bits and have a good contact to send it to. Or have someone send it over to you when you get to Australia.

Else, just sell it and buy one here.

Good thing about most if not all paintballers in Australia (well, WA anyway) is that everyone realises the responibility of owning and using a marker....so we don't get idiots shooting people on the streets.

[MagMan5446]

Actually...I am trying to sell the gun.

Hey, do you Aussies have any good places for mountain biking?

[Threewheeler]

Knackers,

Have you or do you play at Action Paintball Games near Sydney? Just asking because I played there recently and was just wondering how things there wer going. I know John was looking into acquiring more Shockers.

Three.