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  • martlet1
    Team Nutz -Micromag red
    • Aug 2001
    • 173

    #1

    uh, hold the pressure.

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    these are pictures of why you may not want to go higher than your 4500 psi tanks. There is a thread on buying scuba tanks and going higher somewhere here. But really what you are carrying next to your body is a little bomb. Come fields around here are using air compressors to fill scuba tanks, then bleeding off the air for quick fills. This is cool, but be careful and let someone who is certified to fill the scuba equipment up do it.
    I personally dropped a 6' co2 tank off a dock while loading it onto a truck. The nipple broke off and shot the tank through two walls of the warehouse. I can only imagine what would happen under 4500 pounds of pressure.
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  • cphilip
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    • Jun 2026
    • 16216

    #2
    Even 3000 psi will/can kill you. By the way the tank in the article was a 3000 psi SCUBA.

    [This message has been edited by cphilip (edited 08-23-2001).]


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    • FeelTheRT
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      • Jun 2001
      • 2950

      #3
      ssss ouch
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      • Flip540
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        • Jul 2001
        • 851

        #4
        Originally posted by FeelTheRT:
        ssss ouch
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        • martlet1
          Team Nutz -Micromag red
          • Aug 2001
          • 173

          #5
          Ive never heard of a paintball injury from compressed air, but i have had several guys freeze fingers ect from the co2.
          Ive also seen a couple air rams blow up. Scary crap.

          Anyone ever heard of problems with tanks injuring players?? I know my tank heats up when i fill it with compressed air. Im a little paranoid now.

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          • DryIce
            Team Crime Scene
            • May 2001
            • 471

            #6
            Tanks are only going to blow up from mistreatment of the tank. This could be anywhere from throwing the tank on the ground, banging it with a hammer, overfilling the tank, not keeping proper maintence, or filling it when it is out of its inspection period. If treated correctly a tank can be very safe. Infact im more worried about driving on the highway, with some of the crazy people around here, than having my tank blowup on me.
            Just remember a well taken care of tank is a happy tank

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            • Micromag5371
              Irrelevant Misguided Man
              • Jul 2001
              • 246

              #7
              Yes, my turbomax 68/4500 tank heats up when Iget it filled.
              Anything to be concerned about?

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              • Yama
                Registered User
                • Jul 2001
                • 262

                #8
                yea my tank does that too. arnt they saposed to wipe it with cold water or something????

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                • Cha0tic
                  g0t mag?
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 1990

                  #9
                  no, all nitro tanks get a little warm when they are filled. i think it is because the tank expands a little from the fill.

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                  • Webmaster
                    Former Moderator

                    • Oct 2000
                    • 1765

                    #10
                    The reason for tanks getting warm is because of the air. If you rapidly move 68cui of air at 3000psi into a bottle, those air molecules are going to be rapidly bumping around in your tank. Now atoms are always moving (unless its absolute zero). But when they are first dumped into your tank they are moving more than they would in the normal state. All that bouncing around causes heat, thus your tank gets warm.

                    Now - I would let your tank cool off naturally. Sudden changes from hot to cold is what weakens any material. Like taking a glass from the freezer and putting it in boiling water. If its just regular glass it will probably crack. So let it cool off in its own.

                    NOW - when you do this you will see something neat happen. You will LOOSE pressure in your tank. Sometimes 200-500psi depending on the fill and how fast it was. The reason for this is that as the tank cools down, the air molecules settle down and stop bumping into one another. The air pressure was artificially higher due to all the molecules bouncing around.

                    Now - is this dangerous? No - because we only fill to the limit of the tank. The pressure may drop from cooling - but it wont rise to dangerous levels...

                    Now - onto the scuba thing. First off - ANY aluminum tank is more dangerous than the tanks we use. Any tank can get micro cracks and become weakend. If you do any mountain climing or repelling you know that if you drop one of your aluminum calipers you toss it - as it may have formed a micro crack and be weakened.

                    What is super nice about our tanks is that they are kevlar or fiber wrapped. This not only makes them strong - but it will prevent shrapnel in the event of a catastrophic failure.

                    Over all our tanks our very safe. Larry Cossio told me we have NO injuries from a tank failure. HOWEVER - if you ever start to get a leak or something, DROP the tank and avoid it. There has been injuries where tanks or regs failed and a smally hyper presurised jet of air INFLATED under the skin. NOT a good thing. Very rare - but be mindful...

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                    • Peanut The Paintballer
                      The Lowballer
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 267

                      #11
                      Due to my stupidity once I attached the s/s hose from my geddon tank to my genx reg on the OUTPUT slot. My valve was open all the way so easily 1000 psi would run through. The tank was empty and I always leave my valve all the way open for safety reasons. Well anyway, not realizing hte hose was in wrong i brought it to the store and asked him to check my gun to make the hoses were ok and stuff( Just finished reassembling it). He said they were ok and went to fill the tank. All of a sudden we heard the tank hissing and boom the blow out disc blew up so freakin loud.Thank god for blow out discs.

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                      • brett
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 287

                        #12
                        fiberwrapped tanks are as dangerous as any other tank the scuba class i went to ( to fill up my 68 ci) had pictures of blown up fiberwrapped tanks and every guy got killed that had it blown up on him, thats why i got a steal tank, and my paintball shop guy puts all fiber wrapped tank in a reinforced steal vault
                        not to parinoy anyone bout fiberwrapped but its the truth

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                        • C¥borg
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 92

                          #13
                          Fiber wrapped tanks tend to be more chemically weaker than just basic alluminum or steel, simple cleaning materials can weaken the wrapping a lot. I've talked about this in other posts, about how some firemans SCBA's blew up because they were exposed to cleaning materials (I'm still working on getting the pictures)

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                          • toymyster
                            Team OSIRIS
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 1277

                            #14
                            I had seen this at the dive shop I go to!!! This kind of thing is why they went to a different procedure for the annual visual inspection!!! Still you can't be too careful!!!! Show this to all the people who overfill their SCUBA tank so they can get one full fill out of it!!!

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                            • adam68c
                              Registered User
                              • May 2001
                              • 155

                              #15
                              one guy said fiber wraps are safer and antoher guy said that fiber wraps will kill u if they blow.Ive seen a picture of an exploded fiber tank. All the fibers were pointing out from the hole. It didnt look like there was that much sharpnel from the tank but if u were in a shooting position when the thing blew i could imagine how ur face would look.I want to get a straight anwser on whether or not a fiber tank has a better chance of hurting you badly than a metal one would.

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