Brasseagle.com got hacked

[Nitroduck]

Uh oh, yet again some hacker has attacked a companies website. This is the second that I can think of (Smartparts.com was the first).

The hacker went into the public releases and changed info and sent everyone on the BE Email list info like "We are selling JT and VL to WDP" and "We sugguest other companies dont sell crappy products like ours" .

Tom.......You might want to make sure airgun.com is secured so a stupid hacker can't turn the site into a site featuring blenders and slicers & dicers instead of Automags...

[shartley]

[FeelTheRT]

hrmm, he/she/it got past Proxy Server, and Firewall o my. Better do some backing up.

[Nitroduck]

I am just telling you what Brass Eagle said. They termed as the following.

The Brasseagle.com website has been vandalized by a computer HACKER. We
have reported this action to the FBI so that appropriate action can be
taken. The hacker sent out approximately 15,000 emails, purportedly from
Brass Eagle Inc., that contain information which is completely erroneous
and without merit. For the financial condition of the company, please
review our financial statements and press releases, which are available to
the public.

The individual concerned also altered certain product and press release
information on this site, which is now being returned to its original
form. Brass Eagle is taking legal action against the responsible
individuals. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.

I am just trying to let people know someone screwed with thier site, OK?

[shartley]

[Nitroduck]

I know about sending using anonymous mailers and such to fake emails and I do not consider it hacking either. However, if I got the password and such to thier site then sent out 15k Emails using Brasseagle.coms mailing server by stealing the password I would consider it hacking...

[shartley]

YOU may consider it Hacking.. but YOU would be wrong. Sorry.

Think about it like Paintball... what if you heard some Newbie spouting off a bunch of silly terms that were not accurate.. wouldn't you get annoyed and correct them? And it would not mean they are bad people, just misinformed. And it really would not matter what THEY considered to be the terms.. they would be wrong.

This is the case here.

[Paintballer86]

Here is a cut and paste of the e-mail:
[Editor's Note: We received this important email from Brass Eagle and thought it merited special distribution to readers of APG Ezine. We know that most of our readers understand the ENORMOUS harm that can be caused by such online vandalism, harm for which the offender -- and, if the offender is a minor, his/her parents-- will be held liable.]

The Brasseagle.com website has been vandalized by a computer hacker. We
have reported this action to the FBI so that appropriate action can be
taken. The hacker sent out approximately 15,000 emails, purportedly from
Brass Eagle Inc., that contain information which is completely erroneous
and without merit. For the financial condition of the company, please
review our financial statements and press releases, which are available to
the public.

The individual concerned also altered certain product and press release
information on this site, which is now being returned to its original
form. Brass Eagle is taking legal action against the responsible
individuals. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.

Thank you for your patience.

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[jas142]

Either someone has a huuuuuge grudge against brass eagle and got through firewalls and secuirty measures, or brass eagle needs to invest in a firewall for their server.

[Muzikman]

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[This message has been edited by Muzikman (edited 08-23-2001).]

[cphilip]

Of interest in this semantic debate is the fact that this is Jargon and lingo. Not Websters stuff. Here is some stuff on it

Hacker
A computer enthusiast who enjoys learning everything about a computer system and, through clever programming, pushes the system to it's highest possible level of performance. Also known as crackers, these computer hobbyists are skilled programmers with the reputation of having a mischievous bent who break into secured computer systems.

A hacker is simply one who programs enthusiastically and enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming. In 1989, the New York Times published an article headlined "Invasion of the Data Snatchers" culminating in a ridiculous series of Secret Service raids in which federal agents confiscated the computer systems of these "dangerous" individuals.

The term hacker tends to connote membership in the global community defined by the net and it implies that the person described is seen to subscribe to some version of the hacker ethic. Note: It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to describe oneself that way. Most hackers consider themselves something of an elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which new members are gladly welcome.


Ref: NetLingo Classification: Hacker Jargon

Also (and if I understand then this means we have a cracker not a hacker here? Maybe? I read through it prety fast...) So this site has been cracked not hacked right? Awww who cares!




[This message has been edited by cphilip (edited 08-23-2001).]

[Muzikman]

Hmm...could be...

I got my definition of "Hacker" from www.websters.com I think it fits pretty close to what you seen/hear happend to Brass Eagle. I always looked at crackers as people who write programs to get around copy write and security, but not accually cause any harm. I figure once harm is caused, no matter how minor, it is a hack.

And yes, if you ask a real "Hacker" if what happend was a hack, he would probably say no, because he didn't write the program that did the damage. You know, them there hackers have such big heads



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[cphilip]

Well...it seems to me that "Hackers" want to establish this kind of security breaching as another term. And "Cracking" is what they prefer we use. Seems pretty much established though. I don't think we necessarily have to allow them to. Just seems it's been settled on for the time being.

[shartley]

[cphilip]

Now let's get back to these girls kissing each other...