Did you ever measure the OD of their pipe?
And just to be clear, as I said before, these fittings were never designed to be used with hardlines....
Great deal straight up. You could get close to that price with a dust black build and intelliframe, but no way with the purple anno from Mario, RPG,
I get the same results with standard fittings and CCM fittings when using the hardline. It seals in the sense that there are no leaks, but all the "push-grip"