My Hair Triggered Pneu 'Cocker

Hey Guys.
I finally had some time over the Long weekend up here in Canada to finish this project.
I've taken the mechanics of a PneuMag and adapted it over to create my version of a Pneumatic cocker
Thanks to Mag79 for his kit: Mag79 Kit
and all the resources I found here.

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...r1/SFFrame.jpg

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...ger1/Pneu1.jpg

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...ger1/Pneu2.jpg


I had a chance to test her out for the first time on the field Monday.
All I can say is "Wow!"
I was easily keeping up with the electros on the field.
The trigger pull is as light as the original Select Fire WGP E-frame. The Magnets aren't necessary but it gives it a nice quick return.

Spyder's Fasta 18v boasts 30bps but since it is not a true force feed loader I was easily outshooting it with one finger.
As a newbie to swing frames I'm could barely walk it with any rhythm.

Who could imagine? I need a Prophecy to keep up with a mechanical cocker.

I intentionally used a Mini Rock LPR which has a larger air chamber providing me the the extra air volume.

... Hmmm... what to do next? Maybe a Slider version? :P

- Badger

That is the coolest use of a trilogy frame I have ever seen, lol. Lets see some video !!!

Thats pretty cool. Good job! :cheers:

As asked over on MCB, what actuates the 4way?

There is a ram in the frame that looks to be run off of the msv-2, I think,lol.

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Originally Posted by fishmishin

There is a ram in the frame that looks to be run off of the msv-2, I think,lol.

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Well there has to be 2 things in there, one for the sear and one for the 4way. I just don't know if/how you could set up one ram to do both.

I dont know what im more impressed with;

Pneu'd cocker

or

Working Superbolt ;)


:cheers:

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Originally Posted by vf-xx

Well there has to be 2 things in there, one for the sear and one for the 4way. I just don't know if/how you could set up one ram to do both.

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This project can only be done (easily) with the WGP SF frame.

The SF frame is uniquely designed with a Non-traditional sear and X-way plate linkage. The sear and the x-way plates are linked together such way that when the Ram hits the assembly it drops the both the sear and activates the x-way plate at same time.

A stock pneumatic Ram lives inside the frame positioned vertically so that when the MSV pressurizes it, it Fires the piston upward.

Here is a picture of the Festo Noid separated from the Ram.
The body of the Ram is made of Aluminium and the bullet-shaped piston is made from delrin.

Unlike Clippards MPA3, the stock Ram is very simple; no return spring at all. It's just the body and the piston with a single O-ring. You end up needing less energy to move the piston. An very cleaver design.

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/Solonoid.jpg

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Originally Posted by BigEvil

I dont know what im more impressed with;
Pneu'd cocker
orWorking Superbolt ;)
:cheers:

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:)
Yeah.
The body kit is actually fine. Everything else needed to be replaced.

I'm glad to see the parts worked out

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Originally Posted by mag79

I'm glad to see the parts worked out

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Worked out better then I had expected.
Thanks again Mag79

You added more pneumatics to a marker that uses pneumatics to operate....genious! :clap: That is pretty inventive. I wonder what other markers we could do this to.

Very nice

Is anybody else wondering how easily the Ram could be moved to actuate a mag sear?

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Originally Posted by vf-xx

Is anybody else wondering how easily the Ram could be moved to actuate a mag sear?

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3 Words

Logic Ripper Ram ;)

Coolhand already did this. :D

~ P8nt

http://home.comcast.net/~allfor114all/AoUSMC.gif

Videos please. :shooting:

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Originally Posted by vf-xx

Is anybody else wondering how easily the Ram could be moved to actuate a mag sear?

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Take it to the next step.
For your Maggot Tinkerers who have been thinking about making a E-frame you can transfer the guts from a Trilly SF frame into your favorite Mag frame.
Voila! E-mag with ramping features and Eyes to boot.

I don't own a Mag but I'm pretty sure it can be done.

Working on Videos. Stay tuned.

- Badger

As promised.
Here's a short video dry firing and with paint.

Eck! :confused:
I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to get used to a swing after 16 years playing with sliders.
Anyways here she is: :shooting:

YouTube - Hair Trigger Pneumatic Autococker

- Badger

very cool :hail:

Nice cocker Man. Hate to be on the receiving end of that one! ;)

After looking at this again I especially like the way you used the stock trilly t barb, and then ran the air through the front block and back down to the MSV-2. That is very cool IMO. The video is great, were you shooting all-star in the video?

Darn now this has the wheels turning in my head...all I can say is a ZapTheMad Cheater system and a Blazer :)

been thinking about doing this to a uprising frame i got, cool to see it working.

Hey fishmishin,

Thanks
I was thinking that having Barbs on the front block would make it easier for disassembly & servicing.
The paint I was shooting was Draxxus ... bronze I think but very good quality for rec.

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Originally Posted by Ruler_Mark

been thinking about doing this to a uprising frame i got, cool to see it working.

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Yes. I was thinking about this too. Gutting the electronics from an Uprising frame should work too but I didn't have any experience with this frame. If I come across a busted frame I'll give it a go.

- Badger

I must say I enjoyed watching that cocker bolt spazzin out like that. sweet marker dude. :shooting:

i used to roll with an old wgp with a hinge trigger and thought that was fast...

Some updates.

I had a chance to tinker so I gutted the grip frame to illustrate how the trigger mechanism works.
You can see how sear and the 3-way plate is linked together with a horizontal spring.
So when the mini Ram strikes the bottom of the 3-way plate it lowers the sear and rotates the 3-way plate simultaneously.

I've also added a QEV to the RAM so that it would cycle more efficiently.
Is there any other gun that uses 3 QEVS ? :P

I tried a bunch of configurations but the space is pretty tight.
It would have been cleaner if I had mounted it directly to the Ram but this would have breeched a whole bunch of tiny air passages.
I might try it with my next version.

Anyways here's what she looks like so far.

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...uQEVsadded.jpg