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Originally posted by m-98
First, there was no seige of Moscow the Germans got close to it but there was no actual seige.
Second, Stalingrad was a turning point because it was the last major German offensive on the Eastern front.
Third, France did roll over, it took six weeks for the Germans to reach Paris. Also, France surrendered in May of '40 signifying their fall. By the way the Germans did not have to conquer southern France because the French had all ready surrendered so there was no point. If the Germans did not "conquer" France then we did not conquer Japan because we did not fight any battles on the main Japanese home islands.
Fourth, we couldn't start any major operations in '41 because we were still hurting from Pearl Harbor and you could't move troops fast enough for us to start major operations in 2 weeks and we needed to plan.
I take back some of the things about you not knowing things but you are still incorrect about things.
Moscow was laid siege not to the extent of Leningrad or Stalingrad, but ti was laid siege.
I though Kursk was the last major offensive on the Eastern Front :rolleyes: . And no the defense of the capital was more important then Stalingrad.
We beat Japan, we did not conquer Japan. And no the French did not roll over, they lost, but they went down fighting.
That is not the point. My statement was that the US went into France only when the Germans were weekend by the Russians. This is true.
Bosnia was sanctioned by NATO, it was a multilateral agreement with the backing of the UN.
No my father is not from France, he was born there, how many times do I have to say this.
Why didn't the US step in when Poland was invaded?
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Originally posted by Collegeboy
Moscow was laid siege not to the extent of Leningrad or Stalingrad, but ti was laid siege.
I though Kursk was the last major offensive on the Eastern Front :rolleyes: . And no the defense of the capital was more important then Stalingrad.
We beat Japan, we did not conquer Japan. And no the French did not roll over, they lost, but they went down fighting.
That is not the point. My statement was that the US went into France only when the Germans were weekend by the Russians. This is true.
Bosnia was sanctioned by NATO, it was a multilateral agreement with the backing of the UN.
No my father is not from France, he was born there, how many times do I have to say this.
Why didn't the US step in when Poland was invaded?
Kursk: I said succussful offensive, the Germans lost there.
The invation of France: I guess I didn't understand you; I though that you meant we didn't get involved in the war in general.
We invaded France because, as you said, the Germans were weakened but first we had to win the battle for the Atlantic so we could get the proper men and equipment into Britain and we were already in Italy.
The French did fight but they failed to learn the lessens of the Polish campaign. They should have massed their tanks as the Germans did. If the French were fighting why didn't they launch a major a major offensive into Germany when Poland was invaded, and they could have done this. They did launch a small offensive, I know.
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Originally posted by m-98
Kursk: I said succussful offensive, the Germans lost there.
The invation of France: I guess I didn't understand you; I though that you meant we didn't get involved in the war in general.
We invaded France because, as you said, the Germans were weakened but first we had to win the battle for the Atlantic so we could get the proper men and equipment into Britain and we were already in Italy.
The French did fight but they failed to learn the lessens of the Polish campaign. They should have massed their tanks as the Germans did. If the French were fighting why didn't they launch a major a major offensive into Germany when Poland was invaded, and they could have done this. They did launch a small offensive, I know.
Just because you don't win a battle doesn't mean it isn't an offensive battle. (yeah I know double negative :P )
I will get to the rest when i get back.
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Originally posted by Collegeboy
Moscow was laid siege not to the extent of Leningrad or Stalingrad, but ti was laid siege.
Siege: A military blockade of a city or fortified place to compel it to surrender. (Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary)
Moscow was attacked, not laid siege to!
We beat Japan, we did not conquer Japan. And no the French did not roll over, they lost, but they went down fighting.
We were not trying to conquer the Japanese. However an unconditional surrender comes pretty darn close. Our goal was to defeat the Japanese, not enslave them. Your arguement is thusly moot!
Some French went down fighting. Some fled to fight another day. Some capitualed far too easy. *cough* Vichy French *cough*. DeGaulle was a hero, French or otherwise. Mitterand(deceased) and Chirac are morally bankrupt cowards!
That is not the point. My statement was that the US went into France only when the Germans were weekend by the Russians. This is true.
No it isn't. American Bombers destroyed Germany's industrial base, not the Russians. American bombers made resupply of German Armies impossible, not the Russians.
Hey Randy Moss scored the touchdown. All Dante Culpepper did was throw him a 50 yard pass!:rolleyes:
Bosnia was sanctioned by NATO, it was a multilateral agreement with the backing of the UN.
Uhm, the UN did not back Bosnian intervention. That is the reason the US had to unilaterally intervene. Nato did not sanction Bosnia until after the fact!
No my father is not from France, he was born there, how many times do I have to say this.
Born in France=French! ;)
Why didn't the US step in when Poland was invaded?
We were not bound by a treaty to do so as Britan and France were. This is kind of like Korea now. If NK invades SK, the US is bound by a treaty to defend SK! Not to tough to figure out, eh?:rolleyes: