What's the cycle rate of a mag classic?

Does anyone know the cycle rate of a mag classic? I'm not talking about how fast you can pull the trigger, but how fast the gun can keep up. One more question: is the Mag Classic the same as the 68 Automag except for the barrel, air setup and lack of two stars on the valve?

They do just fine up around 16bps.

Go here to see a Hyperframe Mag with a stock AIR valve at 16bps FA.

http://www.odysseypaintball.com/images/201.mpg

Thanks for the quick reply. That was sweet:D The whole target was covered in seconds:eek:

yes that is sweeeet.the stock valve is good enough I suppose.

i think the stock valve does around 9bps.. i remember hearing that somewhere

Umm... did you not watch that video? Let's see, that stock valve in the video is doing 16bps, you say somebody told you 9bps, perhaps inaccurate source of information???

but thats a hyper frame mag.. hes askin about the mag classic.

Yes, that is a Hyperframe, but he is asking the cyclic rate of the classic.

Cyclic rate has everything to do with the valve, BlackVCG has shown you that the classic valve can do 16bps full auto with no shootdown:cool:

i stand corrected...

It depends on how fast you can let go of the trigger to allow the chamber to recharge.

Hyperframes have a solenoid pulse time of 7 miliseconds.
Thus 16 BPS.

Human fingers have a much longer pulse time thus it is slower.