Ultra Light Titanium Emag/xvalve Parts

Im putting together a phoenix emag for myself. The plan is to make all the stainless steel parts in the gun out of titanium and do some extreme ULE machining..both milling and turning.
Im also looking into a lighter battery

I am making the X valve velocity adjuster, power tube tip, bolt, thumb screws, safety, and mode selector out of titanium and then i will will have them titanium anodized or maybe just polished or both..not sure on the finish yet.

I have cut a full ounce off the gun with just these two parts. I will be making the rest in the next few weeks.

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POST IF YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BUYING TITANIUM PARTS!!!

Nice and interesting job !

I possibly be interested by some parts depending on price

would it make it lighter? Stronger for sure.

Very interested.

Interested yes. How much $ are we talking about though. I know titanium is not cheap.

Wow super cool!

Very cool. Interested in what you had in mind with the battery.

Very interested

Titanium classic valve? Yes please!

Popcorn in hand. Waiting on pricing.

interested

of course interested, same old saying pricing dependant.

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Originally Posted by knownothingmags

of course interested, same old saying pricing dependant.

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Same goes for me!

Now if you could make that bolt a L7 and make the powertube internal diameter at least 1 mm larger that would be something. As many think this is the limiting factor for lower pressure operation. And better efficiency. There is room to go bigger with the power tube in a L7 bolt I think.

The velocity adjuster is beautiful. Great job.

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Originally Posted by hill160881

Now if you could make that bolt a L7 and make the powertube internal diameter at least 1 mm larger that would be something. As many think this is the limiting factor for lower pressure operation. And better efficiency. There is room to go bigger with the power tube in a L7 bolt I think.

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It might be possile....

Glad you guys like. Yes you guys are right Titanium is expensive metal and its also expensive to machine because it just eats the cutting tools up and it takes much longer to machine compared to stainless...But these are small parts so it should not be too much money. I will keep you posted on price.

I will need to make them in batches of no smaller than 12 pieces to justify the setup time.

i can saftly say i need 6 powertubes and adjuster screws for my x-vlaves. but i would need them to be installed and and something close to guarntee that they would not get mar'd or scratched in that process.

any thoughts on this?

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Originally Posted by knownothingmags

i can saftly say i need 6 powertubes and adjuster screws for my x-vlaves. but i would need them to be installed and and something close to guarntee that they would not get mar'd or scratched in that process.

any thoughts on this?

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Yes i can do this...I will just get a delrin collet to hold the valve.

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Originally Posted by Xmagterror

Yes i can do this...I will just get a delrin collet to hold the valve.

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ok once you get the sales thread up on these parts, of course again with pricing my numbers may change up or down, i should be interested in the other parts seeing the benfits of weight and such.

looking forward to the new parts thread.

woot.
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KNM

what happen with this XMT?

i would totally be interested... POST #8 :D

also what about a Ti lvl 10 bolt?

I would be interested. :)

Wonder how much it would cost to make a classic valve front?

I scrapped this project...TI is too expensive and it eats tooling. Guess I may be the only one in the world with a ti valve adjuster and power tube tip. Tuna notified me the power tube is patented....can't tread on agd.

I want Titanium parts - it's my favorite metal.

Xmt how Adamantium? Or just make me a set of claws lol!

I think he said they are actually unobtainium.

if you want, let's talk about real metals, like Mithral...:D

seriously, since its a mag, so why not magnesium? that would be cool.

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Originally Posted by Nobody

if you want, let's talk about real metals, like Mithral...:D

seriously, since its a mag, so why not magnesium? that would be cool.

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you know you want a set like these!

Wolverine is so 20th century. who the hell would want ears like a bat?

It's all about the hair, man. Not ears.

...but I wouldn't want that hairdo either.

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Wolverine is so 20th century. who the hell would want ears like a bat?

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Thats who.

Im not sure the Titanium velocity adjusters will ever happen....unless i can sell around 20 of them and i find a great deal on a bar of Titanium.
The stuff really chews up the tooling.

Would be interested in one, so.... uhh...... 19 to go? Have a few leads on titanium bar stock, what diameter/grade do you need?

1" diameter 6AL4V Titanium

You can increase tooling life by high pressure cooling aimed directly at the tool tip while cutting. Use 55m per minute cutting speed and keep the feed high (the higher the better above 80 microns) but below 120 microns where the cut metal will start to stick to the surface of the tool causing heat buildup. Use a round tip for cutting wherever possible to spread out the heat at the point of contact. The stiffness of the machine is very important as well, to reduce tool deflection. Since the elasticity of titanium is part of the problem, you don't want to add any deflection due to the machine setup. Most production machines are not stiff enough to machine titanium in their standard configuration.

Yes im familiar with machining titanium.......its just a numbers game though....it would cost a considerable amount of money to buy the special titanium insert grades required to make the parts. If i only sold 20 parts the numbers just done make since.