Level 10 degassing issue?
Put this in field reports but also want to make sure its seen as I wanted some feedback:
Pressure retention when degassing is much higher. And presents a little bit of a problem. I am seeing like 250 - 300 psi still in the line when the system has degassed to a point that it will not shoot. I totally over looked this during install but it persists and was present then as I think back. I originaly thought it was a sticky Macro fitting but now realize It was under that much pressure. Now this is going to be a problem I think we are going to need to work on. Because in further demo last night I chopped my on off pin removing the valve and shot the on off assembly out. Breaking the on off pin!
We think this retention of gas is a by product of design here and can be a problem and require some sort of device like a slide check in the system to allow total degassing. Remember, I am not talking about that little hiss that you get most times but a big one 300 psi is way too much to start taking things apart. During install I was having to use and small box wrench to bleed the macro out. I had thought that was due to set up errors but it presisted even when the lvl 10 was working properly.
So I think its a part of the trade off here then and would like to know what others are seeing. Screw in tank guys will not see this. Quick connect guys are getting a big hiss I bet. Hard line set up guys with macro or SS line will see this i think.
I need for those of you with closed systems and adjustable tanks that have LP side guages to notice for me what pressures you see when degassed.
Tom! Hold LVL10 production til you read this please
Issues from multiple users during LVL10 testing:
Foamies.
From the testing, some have said that their foamies are coming off. I know my foamie came off when I was dry firing. I found it in my room, where no paint was shot.
Gas retention.
When the gas is shut off, the gun likes to keep some pressure.
There was on instance when I was trying to remove my valve and it would not come off. I was lost as to why, but I removed my intelliframe and rail.
Low and behold, my on/off pin was sticking out of the body. YIKES! I took a pen cap lid and pushed the pin back into place.
After all this, I found a way to relieve this problem.
My set up uses a screw in nitro with uni fill adaptor. I would shut off the fill adapator, and then started to unscrew the tank. When the tank passed the fill adaptor's relief hole, I just pulled the trigger a lot.
Or maybe I'm just crazy. :D
Re: Tom! Hold LVL10 production til you read this please
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Originally posted by nippinout
Issues from multiple users during LVL10 testing:
Foamies.
From the testing, some have said that their foamies are coming off. I know my foamie came off when I was dry firing. I found it in my room, where no paint was shot.
It will do tha no matter what.... lvl 10 or not. Just super glue the foamie back on... it is supposed to happen...
and regarding the gas issue... that happens on ALL mags...
Re: nipple after degassing
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Originally posted by mxracer33x
Notice the bumps at the right end of the nipple. The left side is smooth. When disconnecting under pressure it mars the nipple.
You get what you pay for. Cheap nickel plated QD's like that will wear out. They're too soft.