# Cycle Rate????

• 12-14-2001, 06:29 PM
HoppysMag
Cycle Rate????
Hey i heard that the mags vaulve cycle rate is 28 times a second.is this true? Wht are the cycle rates of other guns? (Spyders,cockers,angels......ect)
• 12-14-2001, 06:32 PM
MAGS own YOU
The retro can cycle up to 26 BPS with no shoot down.
• 12-14-2001, 08:48 PM
Butterfingers
26 w/o shootdown for the RT/retro

im not sure about other guns. But I know the RT is the fastest valve on the market today.

Beware, there is a diffrence between cycling and cycling w/o shootdown.
• 12-15-2001, 10:38 AM
HoppysMag
well ether way
im just curious. ssssooooo i will say w/o shoot down. what does a regular Mag Vaulve do?( the one in a Mini OR 68 Classic)
• 12-15-2001, 10:45 AM
Bartleby
i've seen a video of a regular mag doing 16 with no shootdown. but i think the average from gun to gun would probably be more around 13 or 14.
• 12-15-2001, 11:27 AM
Jonneh
Can you tell if a marker is downshooting? do the balls visibly drop quicker or does the gun cough or something?
• 12-15-2001, 12:17 PM
ThePatriot
I notice shootdown on my spyder when i am running remote...i keep thinkin my air is running low...but its just me poundin away at the trigger, id say spyders have like a 7bps MAX before shootdown, i notice i get shootdown alot with it, thats why im getting a mag
• 12-15-2001, 12:43 PM
Cha0tic
balls will start to fall shorter. your velocity will drop off.

a regular mag will have shootdown at 16bps. a regular mag can do about 12 before shootdown will occur.
• 12-15-2001, 04:35 PM
Bartleby
no the balls don't drop faster. they simply don't go as far. Newton's law of gravity says that any two objects of equal size and mass, one dropped and the other fired perfectly horizontally at the same time, will hit the ground at the same time.
• 12-15-2001, 04:40 PM
Ityl
shoot down will also depend on how the air is run. using a gas through grip or external reg or micro, macro, steel line, they make a difference.
• 12-15-2001, 05:36 PM
Wc Keep
in what video did you see a mag valve cycle at 16 bps??? was it regular mag or was it modified in some way??
• 12-15-2001, 11:29 PM
Bartleby
it wasn't modified in any way. just a stock valve assembly. i dont remember what video but i'm sure you could find it somewhere.