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Originally Posted by Lohman446
What ban list? We don't see a ban list any where. :ninja:
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Originally Posted by Lohman446
What ban list? We don't see a ban list any where. :ninja:
:) LOL - it was a pretty impressive and quick response. I was reading through it trying to figure out how many of the incidents I could even recall.
Thank you
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Originally Posted by AO Moderation Team
Put it back put it back! :cuss: :p
I know I don't chat much on the forums (spending most of the time either lurking or in the BST), but a couple more thoughts reading some of the replies:
"badges", "medals", "rep points", etc.: After browsing PBN for a few minutes to see what people were actually talking about regarding these items, they all just seem like a bunch of clutter that don't really mean anything. Folks time and thoughts, posted to the forum as well as playing/working with folks in the real world, do a pretty good job of teaching folks who is who and who the "good guys" are, I think? I feel that the lack of online things that either promote little cliques or try to segregate folks (in what appears to me to be an already pretty small community) really don't add anything positive, but rather promote an "insiders only" kind of face that isn't very welcoming to new people or casual readers. We do want to find more new, friendly, enthusiastic people to talk to, no?
Signature lines: I understand and respect the idea of these. What bothers me about them, and why I actually like that there are none here is twofold: One, not having every post add at least 2-3 lines of text (let alone graphics, animations, jarring text colors and font sizes. . .) means that I can read more posts per screen view on my monitor - meaning I can actually get to more of the CONTENT of the posts without having to wade through the window dressing. Two, correct me if I'm wrong, but generally all I see out of signature lines is one of two things - either some generally inappropriate/impolite/off-topic rant/shout that doesn't really add anything to whatever conversation is going on, or what effectively becomes a non-stop advertisement circumventing any sort of etiquette asking for business to be done solely in the BST section of a forum. Again, it may just be the sample set I looked through, but neither of these sounds like a good idea to have. Two additional thoughts on this - first, if these signature lines can be turned on/off in user preferences, no harm no foul - no reason for everyone to not do as they please. Secondly, I see the value to providing a quick link to folks' feedback threads in doing business. Maybe a more elegant solution would be to either add a link to these threads in the first post of a thread created in the BST when selling something, or alternately, maybe add the option for a shortcut to the feedback thread in the drop down box that comes up when clicking on a username in a thread/post?
Avatars: My feelings on these are pretty much the same as signature lines. Although some folks after a while (assuming they don't change them every other day) get to be recognized by their avatars, those few people aside, the rest of them are just not really relevant in contributing anything constructive to a conversation on the forum. There are plenty of places online to watch tiny flash animations, view pictures that are all but soft-core pornography (100 pixels big no less!), and have othersuch rotating/flashing/jarring graphics drive one to distraction. Now, I'm not suggesting that this place be all business, all the time, but it seems the flavor of the community created by those who are here quite often has a bit more refinement than that. . . a (little?) bit more grown-up, adult kind of vibe, if that makes sense?
Sorry for the long text blocks, just had a few minutes and thought I would put ideas out there while still fresh in mind.
Couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome
:cheers:Quote:
"A bit more grown-up, adult kind of vibe"
I get your rant, and I'd agree with some of it. But it's centered around when people are just doing it wrong. The main reason I'd vote for signature lines is simply because most BST transactions go down via PM, and it's REALLY handy to have a link to your feedback in a sig line so that with each PM the recipient has an ability to just click on it and get there. It's much better than having to go back and search for the sale thread again, or searching through the feedback forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome
And the avatars... if we're grown up around here, then you could certainly expect the type of avatars that are not annoying, and that stay constant so that people are quickly and easily recognized by them. Avatars that I wouldn't want my kids to see or which induce epileptic seizures can simply be nuked by the mods/admins.
But my point is that if we start throwing cold water on every new thing simply because we can find one example of somebody making it annoying, we'll be left without any content whatsoever. Should we have to forego these conveniences simply because some people exploit them for annoyance? Or can we just clean up the annoyances without throwing out the conveniences? My thought is that if this is a mature forum, then the efforts required to police these kinds of things should be minimal.
Justus, agreed that all these things SHOULD be able to be taken in and used as intended. . .
. . . and I hope I didn't come off as a rant, but rather just some (maybe long-winded) constructive input. :) I guess I just don't want a nice, suburban neighborhood to turn into the Las Vegas strip (not that the strip doesn't have its own unique charm for folks into that sort of thing :dance: ).
As the baby is placed gently into the bathwater. . . :cheers:
Most places have a way to disable sigs and avatars in your viewing (BEO and MCB, for example). Otherwise it takes forever to load in some locations and on my phone ;)
The choice should be offered, IMO.
I don't get "rep points," but a feedback rating system would be more appropriate for what we do here.
so are we going to be spotted our positive ratings?Quote:
Originally Posted by zondo
or does everyone start fresh?
Bring back :
1)Triangle
2)Don Miguel
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I had to double check, but Don is the only one I have ever added to my ignore list. :shooting:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigEvil
No... Feedback ratings like how eBay, BEO, PBN, etc. have for transactions. I don't like the rep ratings.Quote:
Originally Posted by knownothingmags
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Originally Posted by zondo
Once this site is on new software and new hardware, it'll load remarkably faster.
Secondly, once on new software, you can use Forumrunner to view the site on your phone. No sigs to be seen there. :)
sigs
i do like them mainly because of the links to sale threads aswell as feedback. sometimes its a pain to find especially when someone hasnt sold something in months or more.
not really crazy about the huge banners some people run in there sigs but im sure there will be a way to limit those.
feedback
i do like how pbn has the feedback rating posted in the top right of every post. it makes me feel more comfortable to know that someone has 0 negative feedback. that doesnt mean im not cautious still but knowing that 300 postive to 0 negative.is much faster than reading 8 pages of feedback to figure out if the person is going to possibly screw you.
LOL. poor Don. He has to be an adult by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigEvil
Rep points make my head hurt.. I frequent a few other forums and TBH I still don't get them and they seem like a bit of an epeen generator. I know some forums have a 'supporting member' tag that has some weefle benefits like oversize PM boxes and such and a little 'flag' under your name to indicate you contribute... but I don't think people need to be hit over the head.
I do think selling limited/tasteful ad space is not so bad an idea. I am sure there are manufacturers that would be happy to take a little space and help things sail along.
I've always liked the more mature vibe here... since I have come back it seems a bit 'colder' than I remember if that makes sense, but it still seems mature. I think capturing the essence of that is key.
I think just based on the number of people who stepped up for AGD themed merch to save the site, the CafePress idea is a no-brainer as well.
I'm glad the community came together to save this, and I think that's what is going to keep it strong.
Also hexagons. I like hexagons.
if we bring back sigs make the size a set size, on another site we are allowed a 75x500 and less then 25k in size.
Sigs: I like sigs within limits. I also like the idea of sigs being allowed once per user per thread to prevent their overuse.
I do not like the new "fancy" feedback systems like on PBN. I like the feedback program we have now. I would like to see a way of making the feedback threads easier - perhaps just the user name as the title.
maybe theres a way to put a built in feedback thread... instead of having to search for it you can get to it in the drop down menu from clicking the members name
That would be handy. I have never seen it but its a good ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by BTAutoMag
It may be something that a VBulletin plugin could accomplish. It's not something that is built in.
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Originally Posted by Dayspring
iTrader is a plug in that is basically what he is talking about. It is very similar to the way the feedback system on PBN works. BEO has been using it for a while.
iTrader is used on X7OG and A5OG as well, and works really really well. It's basically an eBay-style feedback system.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigEvil
I like it better than simply a feedback thread, because you can tell right from the start how much feedback a person has, and if there have been any negatives. With a standard feedback thread, you'd have to read every single post to determine that a person has no negatives.
This would be an upgrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Justus
FYI - VbAdvanced is what MCB used as their homepage. I like it, I think it's a great idea for an active forum. The bad part is that if the forum is not very active then this doesn't seem like all that great an idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by BTAutoMag
Also - has anyone mentioned getting some new hipper mods on board who can handle the back end stuff better? No offense to the Captain, but every forum needs someone who can do that stuff.
I nominate Dayspring, just cus I love him and I know his life is not complicated enough :D
As far as avatars are concerned, if we want to keep it simple and classy, why not use the regional AO state badges/logos?
i like the way Big Evil conducts his site in reference to sigs and avatars.
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Originally Posted by Lohman446
PBN has it like that.
Top right of every post you make.
I like it :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by AGDRetro
Well... apparently I never actually clicked on those numbers now huh :)Quote:
Originally Posted by going_home
If I could have my way I would prefer it be a pull down menu on the name like the one used for sending PMs and other things.
Things off the top of my head....
Avatars: 96x96 is a good size. Give end-users the option to disable avatars if they do not like them.
Feedback Ratings: Something simple. I do like the way PBN does their rating system.
Groups: Moderators, Techs, Contributors, etc. Something to distingish certain users on the board. On other sites I would actively look for members that were specialized and were notated by a different color or badge.
Mod's: Make it a bit more cut and dry. Who is the AO Moderation Team? Add a few more senior members to tidy up the place.
Signatures: No pictures, just text. If it is a hassle only enable them when you click the persons profile. Like this... https://www.automags.org/forums/member.php?u=6593
AO Member Banner: The picture at the top right. Rework the code for it so it is less labor intensive. The background with the hexagon pattern could be a background and we could put a PNG on top. All we would need is a picture with the background removed to post.
i completly forgot about the member banner. yes, someone throw some more ideas about that :dance:
I would like AO to be AO but MCBs "point based" infraction system seems a reasonable way to allow moderators to give "meaningful warnings". That is users may receive infraction points but no action is taken unless X amount of points accumulate. Infractions expire.
I'm not familiar with the exact way the system works but it seems to work.
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Originally Posted by Lohman446
Thats built right in to VB.
:) Oh when I throw up suggestions they are like a member of Congress doing it. I have no idea of the technicalities behind it or even if its possible I just think it sounds good.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigEvil
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Originally Posted by Lohman446
It would also be nice to have the like button. I know that may be better served on a more opinionated site but I think it has a place here.
Thanks Scott... :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigEvil
I thought “like” buttons were for advertisers, clicking on them builds your personal advertising database so they know what adds to put up for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carnage reigns
Also, I dont see anything wrong with our current feedback system. If its not broke dont fix it.