Offical LVL10, Reports from the Field
Before I get into all the specifics... HOLY $%*#... This is by FAR the best thing to ever happen to paintball. I took it to the Michigan Monster game, and the only time I broke balls was when I ran out of air, and on one of the last 10 shots, two or three balls loaded and were in the barrel, and the ball broke one of the others in the barrel. This mod ROCKS... The best $65 I've ever spent
OK, the details:
-How long it took you to get it installed and what your configuration was to get it working properly
It took only about 10 minutes for 1st install, around 30 min. total. I used the stock spring, 1 spacer, and the 3rd smallest carrier
-The type of gun you're using it on
Automag Classic powerfeed. Intelliframe, old Armson barrel, 68ci 4500psi nitro, viewloader revolution
No noticable difference
-Number of breaks/chops and type of paint used
NO BREAKS/CHOPS IN THE BREACH (see comment above)in 5 cases of paint total. We had 3 level X's and shot Diablo blaze, Zap crap, Nelsplat... a large range.
-Any problems you encountered
There were initial problems with the 1st set-up I had, but I went to a smaller carrier and back to the main spring and it runs great.
-Other general comments
Level 10, squegee not required
finally a good field test!
Here I am, probably a month after i had the Level 10 and just had my first real day of paintball, yesterday. after getting my problems w/it sorted out last time i went to the field, last nights experience was great.
time to install the first time----> probably around 20 minutes with everything in and about another 40 with the right velocity and tuning.
type of gun----> minimag AIR valve w/ intelliframe and flatline 3k tank at about 800 input psi.
efficency---> slightly lower then before, though havent really tested it
number of shots/ paint used----> at the park we use PMI premium. decent paint i guess. i didnt chop ANY of those. at my home, my good friend gave me a thousand Brass Eagle balls from when we started back 2.5 years ago. these things havent been moved or stored any where close to properly for those years. they ahve say in his room in they're original case. ill try and get a pic of some of these Brass Eagle balls i shot. i shot about 500 of those w/o a break as well. also tried to hang a ball into the breech to simulate a chop and it worked fine for about 25 simulated chops, then i guess it just gave up and the paintball got a little chop in its side. :[
~~~~ here are some pics of the crappy paint i used!~~~~
i had my fare share of them the first time out. velocity was a pain. this tiem out it was perfect velocity was at 260-270 so i just left it and had fun!
neato product. ADG and staff are great guys and thanks for making a great product. you guys are good at anything you do, tanks, guns, you guys should try to do a BARREL!!! i know you guys can make something that shoots straight!
Woo hoo! I got one to break!
Got the level 10 installed:
I'm shooting a ReTro Minimag w/ Intelliframe.
Using Middle Spring, 2 Shims, 2.0 Carrier.
Works well. I shot ~200 rounds of field paint to test and then some paint that was 1 and 1 1/2 years old (and poorly kept btw). The Level 10 held up on it's promises - even allowd me to shoot at a 90 degree angle for several rounds - resetting on every other shot of course. I DID manage to break one ball though - with the 1 1/2 year old stuff I was able to get a break after hitting it about 8 - 9 times directly on the seam of the ball (which was where it cracked open btw).
So over all - I am very pleased. Accuracy seems to be the same. It's much more gentle on paint. Diggin' the foamie (someome shoulda come up with that years ago... ;) )
Only concerns I have are in the the departments of efficiency, tank pressure, and RT Reactivness. Currently I run a cheapo 68ci 3000psi PMI Pure Energy tank. I think it's preset at 800 psi, but don't quote me. Great tank for the stock Minimag. No too sure about it now with the Retro/Level 10 combo. I don't seem to be getting great reactivity in the trigger anymore (something several other users have noticed, but that might just be my perception as well) and my efficiency is significantly less - I'd say I might be able to get something less than 600 good shots with it. Maybe it's just time to upgrade my tank to something a little more sexy, but I did want to forward along my observations reguarless for anyone that may be in the same position.
Great product, I can't wait to get it on field to play some serious 'ball with it. Thanks!
OMG. This is the best design ever THANKS MUCH AGD
This is about the greatest thing to come along besides the automag. Set up time was minimal apx 10 min. Tweaking takes about 500-1000 dry shots. The carrier that you use that doesnt leak will more than likely leak after it breaks in the teflon oring. Downsizing the the next carrier or two (but still use the same teflon oring from the orginal carrier!!!!)will correct the situation. Tom you need to give me some other ideas MY MAG IS MAXED OUT. I have been using a mag for about 7 years now. Wouldnt trade for anything else. Its cool being the black sheep of the group seeing all autocockers and angels and whooping some butt with the proven old school gun. Thanks TOM and AGD Team. Keep the MAG ALIVE
BTW. I forgot to mention on downside (which is a minor thing) There is about 500 psi in the gun after airing down. (shutting of the air supply but still attached to the gun)
Is it the retro valve or lvl 10 that doesnt allow an additional shot to release all pressure from the gun???.blown orings on tank frequently. I have a ungodly large 32 degrees slide check (without quick disconnect, not needed) on the gun now to correct the situation. T
The macro lines I have set up run from the retro valve to the drop foward and on the drop foward is where the slidecheck is. and then the macro fitting is attached to the slide check and runs to the drop foward. What this allows me to do is bleed the tank and allows for removal after removed i can slide the check back to release the air still in the retro valve. Cant find ANS micro slide check anymore???? Any other ideas or future products to correct this???[IMG]http://[/IMG]