How to know you're an "Old School" player

[Yakko]

If you still use twist-lock barrels.

[Got_Paint]

I belive www.whitewolfairsmithing.com has the cheapeast phantom prices, if your budget is lower look into Pirahna LB's, newer PGP's, and nelson clones, such as tracers, these run around 100. I know a guy who has a palmerized p68 for 200 if your interested

[Tyger]

Originally posted by Yakko
If you still use twist-lock barrels.

Hey! I resembled that remark!

Well, 'till yesterday....

-Tyger (TIP # 21!)

[cledford]

Originally posted by rabidchihauhau
every time I hear about SMGs, I almost blow coffee out of my nose.....

In the vernacular from another 'hobby', I'm a 'pain slut' - but perhaps I better back up.

I've been guilty in the past of allowing my sense of humor to interfere with my sense of common, so, for the record - I love Tippmann products; they're built like tanks, they shoot great out of the box and everyone ought to have an A-5. (I think the factory team's win at the am open, using "guns only fit for field rental" was a big, unheralded wake up call.)

But I digress.

I get a rush when I get lit up. (Maybe that's one reason why I'm the guy always volunteering...). When SMGs hit the fields, lots of folks were nervous: they feared two things - the rate of fire and the 'pain' associated with 315-325 fps shots (there was a time when 60 caliber guns were allowed to fire in that range).

Anyhow, we had one of those 'I'ma gonna toast youse all' kinds of guys toting an SMG out at the field and I inevitably ended up being the person to run into him first. Brrrrrrrrrap - 20 rounds in the chest from about 30 feet. No breaks. Whack. Whack. Whackwhackwhackwhack.... from myself and my backup.

Thus was born the SMIG drill. Find an SMG on the field. Find Steve. Yell 'smig smig smig' at the top of your lungs. (This made the guy with the SMG think that he was intimidating us...) (It also made all of the rest of the team drop whatever they were doing and head on over) Have Steve run at the guy with the SMG. See the guy with the SMG unload his clip. See the rest of the team light up the SMG guy. See Steve smile. See SMG guy walk off the field.

Fun for everyone

I used to consider myself a "SMG" hunter. When I heard one on the field I immediately headed into that direction to take him out. The 68 caliber pump EASILY outranged the .62 SMG. Even if the guy could drop a couple balls in on you they were harder then the 68s and bounced more often then not. The cool thing that was this was when paintball tactics built around technology was born. Then next thing I noticed ( about 3 weekends later) was that you never found a SMG on the field without a pump "escort."

-Calvin

[billmi]

If you used WARPIG back when it was called ftp.cati.csufresno.edu...

[M-a-s-sDriver]

You certainly are old "something" if...

You bought paint from a guy named Birdsong in metal tubes for 2 bucks a hit. His apartment was covered in vietnam era war banners saying things like "Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out."
Birdsong is STILL reffing at Combat Zone and will nail you with a litany of "true" war stories involving snipers, Marines,Navy SEALS, Ruby Ridge, Indians, Horses, and living outdoors in the middle of L.A.

You played Store Wars in Napa. 400 against 400. You are REALLY dirt if you were on the store owners team in the bunker holding off 700 bloodthirsty numbskulls intent on your death.

You have shot Camille.

You were watching Glenn put the ram in the prototype Blazer, not even annoed yet.

You have invited the entire "Palmer's Factory Team" (Dogs of War) to play at your "homefield" (The River Bottoms)...And they came. And how everyone that heard about it and owned a paintball gun showed up to paste them.

You have drank Separators the night beforea game that you camped out at, and know what a Separator is.

You know how to stalk, and your team had a "Pointman".

You mixed Super Shell with Gator-ball. Super to cut the branches,Gator for the black shell and easy to see green paint.

Last but not least... The feeling you are going to pee on yourself walking down a path, seeing nobody, knowing they are there, about to get totally thrashed by hot guns, and knowing it's the best feeling there is.
Brent.

[rabidchihauhau]

quick silver 12-gram changers....ratattack 12-gram changers;

WITH check valves in them - and if you are old skool, you know check valves in changers were illegal gear

old skool - watching a kid take apart a ninja nightmare and having everyone within eyeshot say 'now you know why they named it the nightmare'

you are if you remember Medallion Custom Emblems...and even more so if you know why they went out of business.

which reminds me - old paintball company time:

Command Post (belly up and leaving lots of debt behind)
T.A.G. Supply (The Action Game - short lived distributor)
Ultimate Game (another distributor biting the dust)

Can we say A.G.S.? Adventure Game Supplies, which during a partner brawl morphed into A.G.S. and....? anyone?

T.A.S.O. - that's right.

Granddaddy of them all - National Survival Game Inc. They had a similar problem to Medallion's, which led to the loss of a lot of early game history.....

Anyone ever put a down-payment on a Destroyer?

How about an I.C.S. vest? (You could recognize a player of questionable virtue just by the presence of an ICS combat vest combined with Thunderwear fingerless gloves - greatest wiping combo ever invented for the game...)

***

In answer to the question about old skool archives: I've been gathering my old articles and some pics and sometime this year I plan on putting them up on a website - along with a little history 'lesson' about the game.

[Got_Paint]

Originally posted by M-a-s-sDriver

You have invited the entire "Palmer's Factory Team" (Dogs of War) to play at your "homefield" (The River Bottoms)...And they came. And how everyone that heard about it and owned a paintball gun showed up to paste them.

we came close, we had lori, craig, allen, and max has came before.

anyone here remember the 707's?

[badinfo]

Oh yeah, one other one I dont think got posted yet, you were playing before most of the kids at your local field were even born

[Brophog]

Originally posted by badinfo
Oh yeah, one other one I dont think got posted yet, you were playing before most of the kids at your local field were even born

Don't remind us!

[Mok_Star]

Originally posted by DK1

And I have kept a few barrels that I don't intend to ever sell, including a 10" Carter SS, and a 12" BOA "patent infringing" snakebite. Sadly, the BOA needs renickled, it's got a pit in the bore...

DK1

still use the BOA snakebite to this day...BOA is the WAY






BTW: started playing paintball on dec 6th 1986, still have the splatmaster i used day one, went to a p-68 pirahna, the pump not the new semi, then to a automag (#000398), still have it and it works great, been with AGD ever since...

I remember when you wanted to get the flag you had to run..barefoot, through the snow, uphill, both ways..kids these days got it easy.....

[billmi]

Originally posted by rabidchihauhau

Anyone ever put a down-payment on a Destroyer?

Hehehehe....





http://www.warpig.com/paintball/arti...unkyguns.shtml


You're old-school if...

You took a hacksaw to a Nightmare to make it direct feed.

You upgraded from stick feed to a hopper made from an oil can.

You owned a hopper that had "magic fish lips."

You know who BLuR and Dave McCarty are.

[Tyger]

Originally posted by billmi

You owned a hopper that had "magic fish lips."

You know who BLuR and Dave McCarty are.

I haven't SEEN blUr (or yor spelling either, it moprhed a few times) in a decade. If anyone knws his wherabouts, tell him he's a pud. He'll get a laugh.

As far as Fish Lips? You don't know the half of that... I got an earfull from Sgt. Splatter. Specifically why thye're called a "Whaler" and a "Guppy". Guppys feed the Whaler, you see....

-Tyger

[billmi]

And I will also point out, that you are old school if your 'mag has the Bortex mod. :-)

[WARPED1]

A 200 round box of Cal Mag lasted you 3 weeks of play, even with target shooting before a game.
Or you played like this *pump shoot pump shoot shake shake pump shoot shake pump shoot*

[Jackel411]

Im back with more.... These are localized sorta

-If you can remember Long Island and paintball Pre-cousins.... ahhh heaven.

-If you can remember taking the day off from school to go hang out with Tyger and the rest of the guys when they made the book they wrote.... ( I still giggle about the girls that were there tyger who the heck were they again? )

-When you can answer this question " Who had a big chrome duel tanked BIG assed regged silenced 2 foot long barreled pump gun "

-When said person still worked for JT

-When you dont cringe about gassing up a rusty very worn out pump gun , but cringe when gassing up a shocker.

-When you still get the willy's for using a WGP pump changer

-When you can recall that used KP'2 were like todays used spyders

-When you had this scenario...... Trick out , mill up , completely rework a VM68 then add nitro.... and the spyders came out?

-When Earon Carter will give you his direct line at dye
( NO!!! Nobody can have it! )

- When sniper came from the factory in a few ways ( this is in the mid 90's ) Sniper 2 , Sniper 3 , Sniper SC? They never made it but it was an option...

-When you can recall wacking a splatmaster into your head to cock it...and still can do it and not get hurt.

-When you can say you had a beer or food at a Wild Geese Camp out any where.... PBLI , West Point , SNY

Ill come up with more...

[WARPED1]

When you got lost looking for the other team.
When you left 2 guys back at the flag base to guard flag.
You call it base instead of station.
When eliminations were kills(damn pc world)

[FaSSt]

If you remember the breech-drop vs. bore drop debate...

If you know where the ICS logo originally came from...

[Jackel411]

Never mind that

If you know what Kieth Idema ( owner of ICS ) did and why ICS went away..... and as a side note.. that he is a Combat analist for Fox: Fair and Ballenced

[Lohman446]

When you remember the game Gotcha for the Nintendo was the coolest nintendo game out

[WARPED1]

When the movie Gotcha!, starring Anthony Edwards, inspired your love of paintball.

[Tyger]

All this ICS talk...

You know, I *worked* for Keith Idema... I wrote for Paintball Planet!

I still have several ICS vests too, but I can't use 'em. My back is NOT happy with me... I might have to make a "Micah Mod" for my Redz pack....

-Tyger

[Mok_Star]

Originally posted by Jackel411



-When you can answer this question " Who had a big chrome duel tanked BIG assed regged silenced 2 foot long barreled pump gun "

i remember...dave youngblood of team navarone, still have the apg with him and that marker on the cover, think the title was "lancelot from conneticut" or something like that, will have to dig it up....

[Lee]

Originally posted by WARPED1
A 200 round box of Cal Mag lasted you 3 weeks of play, even with target shooting before a game.
Or you played like this *pump shoot pump shoot shake shake pump shoot shake pump shoot*

god...cal mag. we used to beg our field owner to get that for us.

i don't know if anyone has posted this yet or not, but here goes:

.....if you remember when paint came in one bag of 2500 rounds and cost at least 100$ and 3 or 4 guys could play a 24 hour game with one case.....

[Lee]

Originally posted by rabidchihauhau
how many old timer 15 man, 12-gram and pump team players are there still out there?

how many still have their pump guns?

how many would be SERIOUS about getting together somewhere, say in two years time, to play paintball the way it was meant to be played?

How many new skool guys would be interested?

here i am!

put me on the list and let me know when. i'll un-retire my anihilater.

[Lee]

Originally posted by rabidchihauhau
I'm not that far out of it that I'm unaware of stock class play and pump play taking place fairly regularly in various environs.

A dedicated group of locals was NOT what I was referring to.

I was talking about the possibility of having an EVENT that was dedicated to what I am now calling Retro-Ball; 4+ LARGE woods fields, referees, honest-to-goodness teams of 15-17 players (substitutes) dual flag games scheduled to last an hour each, and vendors in a trade show selling gear dedicated to pump play - folks like CCI, LAPCO, ActionMarkers, etc.

We'll get charlie holton out there to sell all the stuff he's accumulated over the years, guaranteed to come up with parts for things you probably never even heard of.

A Retro Ball Weekend - 3 days; 15 player pump, stock class (7 player?, 5 player?) and top gun contest.

Hey - when was the last time you went to a tournament and only had to buy 5 cases of paint?

When was the last time you played in a competition where spending 20 minutes looking for the other team didn't mean they weren't on the field?

I've got plenty of experience running large events (specifically paintball tournaments with 100+ teams) - I have plenty of friends who can help make this happen (as in venues across the country) and I think a low-key, pump tournament would be of interest to a lot of industry types.

NOT a weekend of playing with 20 or so friends. An EVENT.

Retro Ball - will it happen?

please do it in florida, pump play is scarce here and needs a shot in the arm.

hmmmm....disney?........

[Brophog]

When you've been playing long enough to remember making the decision not to switch to a semi-auto, and don't regret it to this day!

[Mike Smith]

I remember the Bortex mod for the Mag....

Our field had to ban them, due to the freeway that was 1000 yards from the field. We kept getting complaints from the vehicles getting hit by paintballs from the Mags that had the bortex mod....

[Jackel411]

Bingo Mok

[ogre55]

If you remember the first batch of hotshot paintballs with shell so thick that you could use them to cut through brush.

If you remember using the little cardboard box that Cal-Mags came in for a tool box.

When all you needed to maintain your guns could fit into a little cardboard box.

Ogre