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    Hyper frame good or bad for Classic valve?

    Hey can any of you guys tell me the benefit of a CF hyper frame on a classic valve.Dont have the money yet to get a Xvalve

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    It really isn't a problem as long as you don't shoot over like 15 bps and you use HPA. Also I have read that it is better to use it with the supplied hyperframe on/off.

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    ULT is lighter though.. and i think even centerflag recommends it over theirs, because the hyperframe was pre-ult (I believe, correct me if im wrong).

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    ULT should be better. And I made a vid of a classic valve shooting paint at 20bps fullauto, so I think it works just fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hitech
    ULT should be better. And I made a vid of a classic valve shooting paint at 20bps fullauto, so I think it works just fine.
    can you link the vid?

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    Not at the moment. I could email them to you (about 3.5 megs each, 2 files). Send me a PM with your email address if you want me to email them to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitech
    Not at the moment. I could email them to you (about 3.5 megs each, 2 files). Send me a PM with your email address if you want me to email them to you.
    email them to randall@arstron.net and ill post them on the net.

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    I have one on a classic with the Hyperframe on/off and I'm shooting CO2 with a remote line. It shoots fine.

    you have to watch out for the older classic valves since the depth of the on/off hole wasn't drilled to exact specs. If the pin is too short it will chew up the bolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arstron
    email them to randall@arstron.net and ill post them on the net.
    The email was rejected. You can try here:

    http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/larryd...osting&.view=l

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitech

    Good job Hitech. Thanks I missed em last time around. So good, here they are again.

    http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/HitechHyper1.avi
    http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/HitechHyper2.avi

    What reg and output is that at? Looks all OEM rail, body, valve. What bolt, on/off?

    and thats a Classic Valve But dont tell no one

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    That is a stock minimag. The tank is a preset PMI 68/3K. It has a level 10 bolt with the short spring (the middle & long spring will not work). The on/off is the centerflag on/off with their "long" pin.


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    Mine ran flawless for quite some time. Flatline HPA and warpfeed with classic valve and I was never disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitech
    That is a stock minimag. The tank is a preset PMI 68/3K.
    Preset to what?

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    I'm pretty sure PMI tanks are preset to about 800.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beemer
    Preset to what?
    I've never measured it, but it should be around 800psi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitech
    That is a stock minimag. The on/off is the centerflag on/off with their "long" pin.

    Hmmmm, Any chance you could tell me how long that pin is please.

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    PMI tanks are supposed to be preset to 850.

    I run a spydermag conversion with ULT and love it. Its got level 10 and is fairly efficenet. Last weekend I went to a big game and was able to get slightly over 1000 shots per 68ci 3k fill. Since its a classic I can also shoot deeper into the tank, I can keep shooting untill the tank pressure is under 500PSI without any noticable shootdown. I've only pushed it to 16bps since I know my loader can do that and I don't really need anything faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beemer
    Hmmmm, Any chance you could tell me how long that pin is please.
    I'll try to dig up a mic and measure it.

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    WoW the video is sick. I can't believe I spent 225 on a Xvalve for my Karta and Hyperframe when I could have used a Classic valve.....

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    yeah that pin length would be amazing hahah

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    The xvalve is lighter, has level 10, more consistant, and just all around better. Also its much more cool.

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