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    How To Put An Ego Frame On A Mag

    Latches109's guide to putting an ego frame on an automag.

    Parts:
    *7/32nd drill bit
    *SMC SY113A-SG-PM3 [solenoid]

    http://www.airsoldier.com has them or order from SMC
    http://www.smcetech.com/CC_host/page...,smc,V_M,1115))
    this is the break down of the noid SN, if you order directly from SMC
    SMC = company,
    SY = type of noid in their product line,
    1 = 100 series,
    1 = normally closed,
    3 = piping, body ported,
    A = large flow style,
    S = 5 Volts,
    G = Grommet lead wire .3m,
    [don't need a surge suppressor]
    [non locking push style manual over ride]
    PM3 = Body ported for m3 threads

    * A RAM that fits. This is the hard part, I may be able to get more of the one I used but I'm not sure. You will just have to experiment with this part. I have yet to mount the solenoid, and have found it to bounce, and move. This should be eliminated once I figure out the best way to mount it. Mine is wedged in there right now. MPA-3 works. Check out the other emaggo threads. links at the bottom.
    *Hose
    *barbs
    *LPR

    Directions:
    <a href="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4894162"><img src="http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6021055048.jpg" alt="Click to enlarge"></a>

    <a href="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4894169"><img src="http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6021055279.jpg" alt="Click to enlarge"></a>
    Use the ULT in the valve. Put in lots of shims^^

    <a href="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4894161"><img src="http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6021054960.jpg" alt="Click to enlarge"></a>
    Drill the front of the frame like so[but straight]^^


    <a href="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4894163"><img src="http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6021055074.jpg" alt="Click to enlarge"></a>
    Line up the frame and rail then mark where to drill for the back

    <a href="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4894164"><img src="http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6021055151.jpg" alt="Click to enlarge"></a>


    <a href="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4894165"><img src="http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6021055150.jpg" alt="Click to enlarge"></a>
    remove front arm of sear^^

    <a href="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4894167"><img src="http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6021055278.jpg" alt="Click to enlarge"></a>

    <a href="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4894421"><img src="http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6021591011.jpg" alt="Click to enlarge"></a>
    solder noid lead to a 2 pin connector to connect with the board, you can destroy a timmy eye harness for it like i did. or crimp one on if you have the tool. Or buy one here Link like Loguzzzzzz did.

    plug it all in
    connect all the hoses
    get the noid situated just right so the grip closes
    air up
    power on
    and go mowing.

    here is some video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYvKxMlZ_Vo

    <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4278/dsc0012hd5.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>
    emaggos:
    Latches109 - here

    Loguzzzzzz - Thread: http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...78#post2335978
    Video1:http://feat.putfile.com/flow/putfile...zzzzz-Emaggo-1
    Video2: http://media.putfile.com/code.php?n=Loguzzzzzz-Emaggo-2[url/]

    AirAssault -Thread: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=213280
    Last edited by latches109; 03-12-2011 at 08:56 PM.

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    I'm in the process of this myself......even thought about offering it as a service.


    WTH actuator is that?

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    Im interested in this post.

    If you can,.. provide as many pictures of your work as possible!

    Looks do-able!
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    how wide is that actuator and where did u get it

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    I know! Clippard SM-6.

    I've got one that I'll sell if anyones interested...

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    wjr, pm me a price on that actuator...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjr
    I know! Clippard SM-6.

    I've got one that I'll sell if anyones interested...

    Are you sure?

    The SM-6 measures over an inch long. Thats acuator looks like a MPA3 with a smaller bore ram.

    And then there is the ground down housing as well.

    The SM-6 is brass,.. that housing in the picture looks like raw aluminum grind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjr
    I know! Clippard SM-6.

    nope

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    heres a site i found. im too tired to look through it but im sure someone could find something
    http://www.numatics.com/product/valves/tm.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by olinar
    heres a site i found. im too tired to look through it but im sure someone could find something
    http://www.numatics.com/product/valves/tm.asp
    # Voltage: 12 and 24 VDC
    # Power: 1.2 watt / 1.35 watt with/LED
    # Response Time: < .010 seconds



    voltage is too high for an ego board.
    Power consumption is higher
    10milisecond response is ok, but slow.

    Edit: cv is low too

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    im not too savvy with this sorta thing. im gonna need to learn some more about this. were there any other options on that site that would work?

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    I bought an 06 ego frame off e-bay and put a mpa-3 in it. Just have to shave it down like you do for a pneumag. I believe the o6 frames are a bit wider than the 05. Picked it up for $120 with maniac board. Should be done with most of the frame soon, and will put up some pics. I am gonna have a few surprises with this thing so am excited to get er done.
    Due to the objections of a certain Canadian, this space is now for rent.

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    after i finish my o5 frame, ill pick up an 07 frame and try it. this seems to be an easy mod for the most part. im going to run out of mags to put frames on lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirAssault
    I bought an 06 ego frame off e-bay and put a mpa-3 in it. Just have to shave it down like you do for a pneumag. I believe the o6 frames are a bit wider than the 05. Picked it up for $120 with maniac board. Should be done with most of the frame soon, and will put up some pics. I am gonna have a few surprises with this thing so am excited to get er done.

    Really looking forward to seeing some pictures of that! I love the 06 frame the best, and the I'm curious to see what u can get out of that maniac board as it can be set above 15bps!! How sure are you that the 06 frame is wider? DO u think I can cram that sucker in an 05 or forget about it....

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    i was wondering what psi would be appropiate for the lpr to spit out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olinar
    i was wondering what psi would be appropiate for the lpr to spit out.
    what do you mean?

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    I think he's asking what PSI should the LPR be set at, I think this will depend on what Solenoid you use and how efficient your ram is. Solenoids are rated to set pressures so obviously you don't want to go over that amount, and until then you would probably just want to adjust the pressure until it shot the best. I'm sure someone more familiar with the mpa-3 and such could give u a range to work with. It's hard to say as most people don't have gauges on their lpr's, it would sure be nice to see a micro gauge that works with the small hose, would be very cool for the grips that have windows.....

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    ya thats exactly what i meant, thanks nicholai. im using the same smc noid that everyone else used and im also using the mpa-3. i ask because i was wondering if there are any preset lpr's or something of the sort i could pick up.

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    any new emaggo's? im waiting on my parts from airsoldier to start mine up. where can i find a 2 pin connector for the noid? ive tried looking for a timmy eye harness but no luck. any electronics stores?

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    go to www.akalmp.com and look under repairs. But if you are only going to get one thing I would either wait until you need more stuff from them, or combine your order with someone else's because I have heard the shipping is kinda high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olinar
    any new emaggo's? im waiting on my parts from airsoldier to start mine up. where can i find a 2 pin connector for the noid? ive tried looking for a timmy eye harness but no luck. any electronics stores?
    I was planning on looking at radio shack, not sure if they have them or not. Do a google for 2 pin connnector and you should come up with some stuff. Just waiting for funds to get my noid, every thing else is done. Did things a bit different than some here, will get pics up when she is complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olinar
    any new emaggo's? im waiting on my parts from airsoldier to start mine up. where can i find a 2 pin connector for the noid? ive tried looking for a timmy eye harness but no luck. any electronics stores?
    you can jerry rig one; try to solder the leads onto a two pin connector from frys or some electronic store like that. Crimping is the best, ie ensures a good electrical connection. Go to your LPS and see if they have any sort of two pin connector you can demolish.

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    does the solenoid you used have a 2 pin on it? because that was the one i bought, i was going to wait and see if it for some reason came with one lol. ill probably just end up getting one from aka's site because frye's is too far. maybe radioshack?

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    Where can u get just an EGO frame that you used Lache?

    I got my own boards I wanted to try in a frame,... see if my kit will work as a drop in.

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    ebay is a great asset to tinkerers. even for tinkerers like me in my early stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p8ntbal4me
    Where can u get just an EGO frame that you used Lache?

    I got my own boards I wanted to try in a frame,... see if my kit will work as a drop in.
    I bought mine from San Diego PEVS. Try searching on pbn, ebay and other pb sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olinar
    does the solenoid you used have a 2 pin on it? because that was the one i bought, i was going to wait and see if it for some reason came with one lol. ill probably just end up getting one from aka's site because frye's is too far. maybe radioshack?
    no I cut a timmy eye harness to get the 2 pin. Yes aka does look like the best. I paid $6 for the eye harness. post some pics when you are done.

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    definitely will end up picking one up from aka. only thing im waiting on are the parts from airsoldier. this thing should be great.

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    parts came in today and i had to find out the long way that the noid isnt 10/32 threaded lol. i want to order everything else from one site so i only pay one place but i was wondering if this would work to connect the noid to the board, connector .i also need a ult kit. so close yet so far lol, i hate not having local resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olinar
    parts came in today and i had to find out the long way that the noid isnt 10/32 threaded lol. i want to order everything else from one site so i only pay one place but i was wondering if this would work to connect the noid to the board, connector .i also need a ult kit. so close yet so far lol, i hate not having local resources.

    **cough*PM3 = Body ported for m3 threads* **ahem**

    I couldn't really see the end very well, I will look at a ion board and see. I would ~assume~ yes.

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