New Frame Vote - Pick the frame you think we should make!!!

[Pneumagger]

Answering concern in no particular oder:

True. It's based off the UMF... using actual UMF design files furnished by Coolhand at Logic. (Thanks!)
So it should lots of room inside.

The eclipse grip panel version will actually be flat inside along the bottom, but I doubt an LPR will be able to fit inside the frame anyways.
You lose about 3/4" when you itch the AGD rail, meaning the MPAs and MSV will sit lower as well.
I'd be surprised if even a Ticker LPR fit under all the pneumatics.
Most pneumatic conversion may have to LPR tapped into the fron t of the ASA with slot milled in the top for the hose.
One thing that the Eclipse grip screw pattern allows is generous room for a 9V, board and solenoid
I predict an EP conversion will be easier than a pneumatic conversion.

We can do multiple runs. I'm just going to go in order of demand. This is not a business venture, really. I enjoy designing as a hobby, so I'm going to do what I can for us and try and produce something a affordable as possible. There is virtually no markup on this part, so if the demand exists to make a run happen, I can organize it... but my goal is not total sales/profit by any means.

Eclipse means it will use the Eclipse/Ego screw hole pattern. this provides more internal room.
Enhanced means it has the internal layout to help with conversions... although some modification (drilling/tapping) will still be required.
The frame can be made in any combination of open or enhanced internals with .45 or eclipse panels.

[matteusz]

Answering concern in no particular oder:

True. It's based off the UMF... using actual UMF design files furnished by Coolhand at Logic. (Thanks!)
So it should lots of room inside.

The eclipse grip panel version will actually be flat inside along the bottom, but I doubt an LPR will be able to fit inside the frame anyways.
You lose about 3/4" when you itch the AGD rail, meaning the MPAs and MSV will sit lower as well.
I'd be surprised if even a Ticker LPR fit under all the pneumatics.
Most pneumatic conversion may have to LPR tapped into the fron t of the ASA with slot milled in the top for the hose.
One thing that the Eclipse grip screw pattern allows is generous room for a 9V, board and solenoid
I predict an EP conversion will be easier than a pneumatic conversion.

We can do multiple runs. I'm just going to go in order of demand. This is not a business venture, really. I enjoy designing as a hobby, so I'm going to do what I can for us and try and produce something a affordable as possible. There is virtually no markup on this part, so if the demand exists to make a run happen, I can organize it... but my goal is not total sales/profit by any means.

Eclipse means it will use the Eclipse/Ego screw hole pattern. this provides more internal room.
Enhanced means it has the internal layout to help with conversions... although some modification (drilling/tapping) will still be required.
The frame can be made in any combination of open or enhanced internals with .45 or eclipse panels.

In that case I want to change my vote to 15 degree enhanced eclipse.

For me the big draw to these is two fold. First it allows for a smaller gun. So awesome.

Second (and this is where I get my wallet out) ease of conversion to Pneumatics. The more you can do to make this happen the better.

For example if you were to mill the channel for air hose and tap the front of the asa it would not add significantly to machining costs (as far as I know) but would greatly enhance the utility of the frame. From a design standpoint these should be simple changes (especially the channel for air hose) that would make my day as someone that would be jumping in on the project.

I say once voting is done people need to put money with their votes. Give me something I can drop pneumatic parts into with minimal efforts and I will give you a deposit for my frame.

And thank you for letting us in on the hobby project. These things are definately an item to look forward to.

[Rudz]

We can always use a reg style lpr on the front asa and run lines to the pnuematics like a few pnuemags I've seen, such as mine or joes, I used a cp reg and some nifty fittings, but I think pnuemagger used a palmers fatty with an extra port, so the lp air comes out the top, hp out of the side, and imput thru the bottom right? I just used a t fitting on my reg, works awesome, thanks to practice target/ loguzzz

[mpsd]

So... Can you start the preorder thread already? There are 70 votes, 38 of them asking for the integrated 15* ASA and 23 with the Eclipse grips. As I voted for the 45 grips but would buy it with the Eclipse ones as well, that makes 24 "orders".

I may be wrong but I guess you could easilly sell the needed 25 to run the first batch and, if it doesn't get there, I may be buying more than one in order to complete it.

[Ruler_Mark]

"AGD Rail Extension with Enhanced Eclipse" is my fav but id buy it no matter what.

[matteusz]

So... Can you start the preorder thread already? There are 70 votes, 38 of them asking for the integrated 15* ASA and 23 with the Eclipse grips. As I voted for the 45 grips but would buy it with the Eclipse ones as well, that makes 24 "orders".

I may be wrong but I guess you could easilly sell the needed 25 to run the first batch and, if it doesn't get there, I may be buying more than one in order to complete it.

I think in part there is incentive to take a thing like this slowly so that it can be done in the most affordable way possible. I would rather wait for a greater number and get it cheaper than get it now for more.

Cheap
Fast
Well Done

You can only pick two.

[DanMan]

whatever frame you do, make sure that you do the vertical actuator cut, that is a genius idea and i probably wont buy one w/o it.

[Spider-TW]

Answering concern in no particular oder:

True. It's based off the UMF... using actual UMF design files furnished by Coolhand at Logic. (Thanks!)
So it should lots of room inside.

The eclipse grip panel version will actually be flat inside along the bottom, but I doubt an LPR will be able to fit inside the frame anyways.
You lose about 3/4" when you itch the AGD rail, meaning the MPAs and MSV will sit lower as well.
I'd be surprised if even a Ticker LPR fit under all the pneumatics.
Most pneumatic conversion may have to LPR tapped into the fron t of the ASA with slot milled in the top for the hose.
One thing that the Eclipse grip screw pattern allows is generous room for a 9V, board and solenoid
I predict an EP conversion will be easier than a pneumatic conversion.

We can do multiple runs. I'm just going to go in order of demand. This is not a business venture, really. I enjoy designing as a hobby, so I'm going to do what I can for us and try and produce something a affordable as possible. There is virtually no markup on this part, so if the demand exists to make a run happen, I can organize it... but my goal is not total sales/profit by any means.

Eclipse means it will use the Eclipse/Ego screw hole pattern. this provides more internal room.
Enhanced means it has the internal layout to help with conversions... although some modification (drilling/tapping) will still be required.
The frame can be made in any combination of open or enhanced internals with .45 or eclipse panels.

Doh!

I would move my vote from

15 Degree with Stanard .45

to

15 Degree with Enhanced Eclipse

if I could.

[Baddad]

I have a Dallara bodied project and have an Airwalk frame for it, I would like to install a Pnuemag kit and a frame that was made to accept that would get my vote(with or without ASA)

[zondo]

NanoMag...

Have you decided on which profile to produce?

[Pneumagger]

The 15 degree with pneu internals seems to be the mob's choice.

I must apologize - i have been busy with holiday shopping, the Gforce LPR parts, and several other firearm related projects. I haven't gotten the finalized prints to the machine shop for production. I have more than a few days off with the holidays coming up... so more than likely i will work to get the models up-to-date, finalized, and printed.

[Ruler_Mark]

The 15 degree with pneu internals seems to be the mob's choice.

I must apologize - i have been busy with holiday shopping, the Gforce LPR parts, and several other firearm related projects. I haven't gotten the finalized prints to the machine shop for production. I have more than a few days off with the holidays coming up... so more than likely i will work to get the models up-to-date, finalized, and printed.

and enhanced ecclipse

[Redbeard the Pirate]

So... Can I buy one yet?

[matteusz]

So... Can I buy one yet?

Foolish newb these things take patience.

[Dark Frost17]

is there one with the for grip a little further away ?

[Redbeard the Pirate]

Foolish newb these things take patience.

Thank you oh great master of the interweb!

Sarcasm owns you

[matteusz]

Thank you oh great master of the interweb!

Sarcasm owns you

Um how can sarcasm own me when you show your newbness in your response. Making frames takes time because of things like machinists schedules. Anyone that has ordered custom paintball parts would know this. But then you wouldn't get that cause you're a NEWBIE.

Owns you. Newb.

[Redbeard the Pirate]

Um how can sarcasm own me when you show your newbness in your response. Making frames takes time because of things like machinists schedules. Anyone that has ordered custom paintball parts would know this. But then you wouldn't get that cause you're a NEWBIE.

Owns you. Newb.

Wow... That is all.

[mpsd]

Let's not forget it! Back to the top!!!

[skyless]

This looks great, im not going to vote now because i dont need another double trigger frame. If you ever get around to making a single trigger frame like this I would hop on the band wagon in an instant.

[tbaggin]

im in for the 15*, either stupe is fine with me

[AGDlover]

I like the intagrated 15* but I just cant see any other use other than pnenmag and the loss of the rail.. while it IS a good design... kinda makes a mag look more like an Ion which is something I know I dont want my next mag looking like. just my 2cents

[legolas]

my vote is for the frame with the rail extension. as others have said this gives the most flexibility--people can enjoy whatever degree ASA they choose to put on their frame. personally I will be adding a 0 degree ASA so my qloader will go on straight... What happened to the snatch grip? I envisioned it curving down at the back end, kind of like the snatch grip on an airwalk frame. Any way you slice it, this frame will be sick.

[sebastianbalogh]

my vote is for the frame with the rail extension. as others have said this gives the most flexibility--people can enjoy whatever degree ASA they choose to put on their frame. personally I will be adding a 0 degree ASA so my qloader will go on straight... What happened to the snatch grip? I envisioned it curving down at the back end, kind of like the snatch grip on an airwalk frame. Any way you slice it, this frame will be sick.

That's a good point, Legolas, I forgot about the Qloader. A 0 degree ASA would definitely be better for that.

[mpsd]

Is it dead?

[ElPanda]

I think joe might have got a little busy

either way I want one of these for my mag so get on it

[zondo]

Don't lose focus!

[L3MUR]

is there a new thread for this or is progress just going a little slow?

[mpsd]

Unfortunatelly, it's going REALLY slow...

Come on, Joe, you can't just put the candy in our mouths and then take it away... Let's put this baby to rock!!!

[Ruler_Mark]

ugggg i neeed this