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    Smile My Hair Triggered Pneu 'Cocker

    Hey Guys.
    I finally had some time over the Long weekend up here in Canada to finish this project.
    I've taken the mechanics of a PneuMag and adapted it over to create my version of a Pneumatic cocker
    Thanks to Mag79 for his kit: Mag79 Kit
    and all the resources I found here.









    I had a chance to test her out for the first time on the field Monday.
    All I can say is "Wow!"
    I was easily keeping up with the electros on the field.
    The trigger pull is as light as the original Select Fire WGP E-frame. The Magnets aren't necessary but it gives it a nice quick return.

    Spyder's Fasta 18v boasts 30bps but since it is not a true force feed loader I was easily outshooting it with one finger.
    As a newbie to swing frames I'm could barely walk it with any rhythm.

    Who could imagine? I need a Prophecy to keep up with a mechanical cocker.

    I intentionally used a Mini Rock LPR which has a larger air chamber providing me the the extra air volume.

    ... Hmmm... what to do next? Maybe a Slider version? :P

    - Badger
    Last edited by Badger; 02-17-2010 at 07:28 PM.

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    That is the coolest use of a trilogy frame I have ever seen, lol. Lets see some video !!!

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    Thats pretty cool. Good job!

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    As asked over on MCB, what actuates the 4way?

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    There is a ram in the frame that looks to be run off of the msv-2, I think,lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmishin
    There is a ram in the frame that looks to be run off of the msv-2, I think,lol.
    Well there has to be 2 things in there, one for the sear and one for the 4way. I just don't know if/how you could set up one ram to do both.

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    I dont know what im more impressed with;

    Pneu'd cocker

    or

    Working Superbolt



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    Quote Originally Posted by vf-xx
    Well there has to be 2 things in there, one for the sear and one for the 4way. I just don't know if/how you could set up one ram to do both.
    This project can only be done (easily) with the WGP SF frame.

    The SF frame is uniquely designed with a Non-traditional sear and X-way plate linkage. The sear and the x-way plates are linked together such way that when the Ram hits the assembly it drops the both the sear and activates the x-way plate at same time.

    A stock pneumatic Ram lives inside the frame positioned vertically so that when the MSV pressurizes it, it Fires the piston upward.

    Here is a picture of the Festo Noid separated from the Ram.
    The body of the Ram is made of Aluminium and the bullet-shaped piston is made from delrin.

    Unlike Clippards MPA3, the stock Ram is very simple; no return spring at all. It's just the body and the piston with a single O-ring. You end up needing less energy to move the piston. An very cleaver design.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigEvil
    I dont know what im more impressed with;
    Pneu'd cocker
    orWorking Superbolt


    Yeah.
    The body kit is actually fine. Everything else needed to be replaced.

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    I'm glad to see the parts worked out

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    Quote Originally Posted by mag79
    I'm glad to see the parts worked out
    Worked out better then I had expected.
    Thanks again Mag79

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    You added more pneumatics to a marker that uses pneumatics to operate....genious! That is pretty inventive. I wonder what other markers we could do this to.

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    Very nice

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    Is anybody else wondering how easily the Ram could be moved to actuate a mag sear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vf-xx
    Is anybody else wondering how easily the Ram could be moved to actuate a mag sear?

    3 Words

    Logic Ripper Ram

    Coolhand already did this.

    ~ P8nt

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    Videos please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vf-xx
    Is anybody else wondering how easily the Ram could be moved to actuate a mag sear?
    Take it to the next step.
    For your Maggot Tinkerers who have been thinking about making a E-frame you can transfer the guts from a Trilly SF frame into your favorite Mag frame.
    Voila! E-mag with ramping features and Eyes to boot.

    I don't own a Mag but I'm pretty sure it can be done.

    Working on Videos. Stay tuned.

    - Badger

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    As promised.
    Here's a short video dry firing and with paint.

    Eck!
    I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to get used to a swing after 16 years playing with sliders.
    Anyways here she is:

    YouTube - Hair Trigger Pneumatic Autococker

    - Badger
    Last edited by Badger; 02-20-2010 at 11:51 PM.

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    very cool

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    Nice cocker Man. Hate to be on the receiving end of that one!
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    After looking at this again I especially like the way you used the stock trilly t barb, and then ran the air through the front block and back down to the MSV-2. That is very cool IMO. The video is great, were you shooting all-star in the video?
    Last edited by fishmishin; 03-03-2010 at 11:02 AM.

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    Darn now this has the wheels turning in my head...all I can say is a ZapTheMad Cheater system and a Blazer

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    been thinking about doing this to a uprising frame i got, cool to see it working.

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    Hey fishmishin,

    Thanks
    I was thinking that having Barbs on the front block would make it easier for disassembly & servicing.
    The paint I was shooting was Draxxus ... bronze I think but very good quality for rec.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ruler_Mark
    been thinking about doing this to a uprising frame i got, cool to see it working.
    Yes. I was thinking about this too. Gutting the electronics from an Uprising frame should work too but I didn't have any experience with this frame. If I come across a busted frame I'll give it a go.

    - Badger
    Last edited by Badger; 03-10-2010 at 11:16 AM.

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    I must say I enjoyed watching that cocker bolt spazzin out like that. sweet marker dude.

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    wow

    i used to roll with an old wgp with a hinge trigger and thought that was fast...

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    Post 3-qevs

    Some updates.

    I had a chance to tinker so I gutted the grip frame to illustrate how the trigger mechanism works.
    You can see how sear and the 3-way plate is linked together with a horizontal spring.
    So when the mini Ram strikes the bottom of the 3-way plate it lowers the sear and rotates the 3-way plate simultaneously.

    I've also added a QEV to the RAM so that it would cycle more efficiently.
    Is there any other gun that uses 3 QEVS ? :P

    I tried a bunch of configurations but the space is pretty tight.
    It would have been cleaner if I had mounted it directly to the Ram but this would have breeched a whole bunch of tiny air passages.
    I might try it with my next version.

    Anyways here's what she looks like so far.


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