ShoeBox Compressor Important Information, 30 Day Money back YES --- Warranty NO
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ShoeBox Compressor Important Information, 30 Day Money back YES---
This is an important explanation of the warrantee situation on the
compressor. As may of you know from the past, I fixed Automags for
free for many many years after they were sold. In order to give you
the least expensive price on this compressor, I can not give this
type of warrantee again.
As an example, if the compressor was priced the same way I priced
the Automag (based on a multiple of the actual parts cost), it would
be 1,200 dollars. You made it very clear to me on the forms that if
it was priced at 500 dollars or more, you were not interested. So I did
my job and brought it in under 400 dollars and still reduced the
fill times by 5x from the original estimates.
The other problem with a compressor vs a marker is the amount of run
time. You can't possibly shoot a marker 24/7 but some of you will
turn on this compressor and let it run non-stop until it breaks.
Many of you will try to over pressure the system to shorten your run
times and there is no way I can control that. The sharp guys will
fiddle with the gearing to tune it to the max and in the process
melt something down. I can't be responsible for these things.
Again in order to keep the price down, I will not have a phone line
for tech support. I will be answering tech questions on the new
compressor forum here. I am also working on getting Tuna and others
to do tech support. I am using the Autococker model in this case.
Budd didn't do much tech support but the dealers loved him because
everyone came in to the shops for support. As you see with the hose,
there will be lots of ups and extras that you can get for the
ShoeBox from your dealer.
I don't want anyone to feel like they got ripped off from owning one
of my products, so I will offer a 30 day MONEY BACK NO QUESTIONS
ASKED policy. You have to pay for the return shipping. I will refund
the original price of the compressor (but not the original shipping
to you). If you buy it from a dealer, you have to get your money
back from the dealer and then I will refund the dealer directly. If
you didn't give me the money originally, don't expect me to fix a
problem you have with a dealer.
If you get one of these units, plug it in, and a part breaks in half
due to a manufacturing defect, I will repair or replace the unit at
our discretion. If you give me grief, I reserve the right to give
you your money back.
So that is the bad news, but here is the good stuff. Most of the
small parts even up to and including the pistons, can be purchased
reasonably online at McMaster Carr. This includes the chains,
sprockets, bushings, bearings, pressure fittings, pressure tube,
axles, clips, bolts and some of the orings. You can literally
rebuild every wear part in the unit from McMaster. I will also have
an online store with replacement parts soon.
How long will it last? Thats a question many of you are asking right
now. In fact we just don't know. I have tried to kill the prototype.
Beemer is trying to kill a production model right now. We hooked one
up at 650 rpm (the stock speed is 200) and it jumped across the
floor....for 15 minutes...(Beemer hid in the other room)...it
finally stopped pumping a few minutes later (but didn't stop jumping
around) so we shut it off. The excessive heat had melted the
delrin backcheck but NOT the high temp oring (got to love viton). We
have never worn out an oring or piston or cylinder in all the weeks
of testing. The only thing that stops it pumping is high heat from
compression melting something because you over reved it or a flake
of crap getting wedged in the backcheck valve.
So if you have actually read to the end of this long winded
diatribe, you are one of the guys I want to sell the first batch
too. This is actually the official order list. To be officially on
the list you need to reply in this thread with something like "The
money back thing is ok with me!!" AND YOUR ZIP CODE. When we get
units ready to ship, we will pm you with a shipping cost and a total
price. You will need to paypal the money into our account and it
will be on its way. Remember, you need to post that you read and
understand the limited warrantee and your zip code.
Thanks everyone! Looking forward to a successful roll out.
Last edited by AGD; 10-19-2010 at 05:56 PM.
I have read and accepted the conditions on the sale of the shoebox.
My zipcode is: 48837
I have read and agree to the conditions of your 30 day return policy My zip is 53218 THANK YOU
I have read and agree to the conditions.
My Zip 30253
Read it cover to cover. I concur. 35802. Thanks Tom!
I have read the terms and conditions in this thread and I agree to them, and I would like to purchase one unit. My zip is 80126.
"The money back thing is ok with me!!"
AND MY ZIP CODE: 01740
Last edited by joeyt; 06-17-2010 at 08:40 AM.
Reason: was so excited typed zip code wrong
I am OK with the terms of sale....count me in..... ZIP 49047
What about the guys in Canada TK?
Would you ship out to Ontario?
I have read and agree to the conditions. "The money back thing is ok with me!!"
I would expect no more , I would rather pay you for repair parts than McMaster Carr
zip code 34953
Tom, that seems to be a fair warranty agreement to me.
Now, the only question I have is regarding the replacement parts. You said most of them can be found at McMaster. Will you print a parts list with part numbers and send it along with the ShoeBox? This way we could keep it running forever, right?
Also, you've mentioned on another thread that the "ideal" ShoeBox would have some different parts like brass pistons, for example. Are these parts also available at McMaster?
TK EDIT: Yes I will provide part # for McMaster. They will be available on the website coming soon. I will fill you in on the various options as they come along. One in the works is a whisper quiet option.
Last edited by AGD; 06-06-2010 at 09:02 PM.
I have read and also agree with the terms of this thread.
my zip is 64093
I agree to all posted by AGD and still want
29229 is my zip
The money back thing is okay with me.
I read, understood, and agree with the 30 day return policy along with every thing else.
postal code: M1E-3S2
Hope I can get one shipped to Canada, getting on the list just in case it's all good.
I have read in entirety and absolutely accept your terms and conditions and look forward to receiving the ShoeBox!
A-OK WITH ME!!!! I even read the fine print!!!!
Thank you again for everything that you did to make this all happen man...
Screw it im in, I'll find the money somewhere.
Originally Posted by Nobody
I accept the conditions.
Got a question though, is there a bulk pricing deal if we'd like to get both a 3000psi and a 4500psi model?
TK EDIT: No bulk pricing at the moment. Sorry.
SS Edit: Thank you sir.
Last edited by Sneaky Sir; 06-09-2010 at 08:17 AM.
"The money back thing is ok with me!!"
I'll take one
"The money back thing is ok with me!!" 84095
Great response thanks! I will be cutting this off at about 80 orders to leave a few for backup.
When will you be needing payment ??
Originally Posted by AGD
TK EDIT: You can pay when you get your gun back
Last edited by AGD; 06-06-2010 at 09:51 PM.
What is the rough time frame?
any chance to have it prior to mid July?
I have read and accepted the terms and conditions of the 30 limited warranty. Zip code is 42301. Thanks Tom.
I expect these to ship in about two weeks unless something catastrophic happens.
Check, cash, money order, Paypal?
I have read the terms and fully agree to them.
TK EDIT: that makes 20 to here.
Last edited by AGD; 06-07-2010 at 09:39 AM.
Read and agree .