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  1. #181
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    Andy,

    Are you out or still taking work for these?

    I also need two or more dogbone milled am/mm rails.

    and so i don't have to send my stuff to multiple machinist, do you do freak boring or cocker threading by chance?

    LMK
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    Scott

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    Scott,

    I have one slot open on the last of my CF modifications. If you want it, its all yours. No problem on the rails, but I'll have to pass on the barrel work - too many irons in the fire right now.

    -Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by warpedmephisto View Post
    Scott,

    I have one slot open on the last of my CF modifications. If you want it, its all yours. No problem on the rails, but I'll have to pass on the barrel work - too many irons in the fire right now.

    -Andy
    consider it mine, I will PM you when I get everything sent out.

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    Sold! Well, that does it, boys - no more CF modifications for the time being. I'll let you all know if/when this becomes available again.

    Thanks to everyone over the years for your support!

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    To everyone that currently has a body sent out to me to be modified: I will be completing all of these mods this weekend and should be shipping them all back out on Monday.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by warpedmephisto View Post
    To everyone that currently has a body sent out to me to be modified: I will be completing all of these mods this weekend and should be shipping them all back out on Monday.

    Thanks!
    thanks for the update

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    yeah! thanks

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    pm's are full, sent you a message on FB

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    Got mine in today and having some issues. Seems like the body is sliding backwards just slightly. It is enough to cause the body to interfere with the sear. When I compare to another CF body that I have, I noticed that the hole in the body that the on/off pin goes through is slightly larger in the old body vs the new. Not sure if the previous owner did this. When I swap the CF insert from one body to the next, the old one works in the new body. I don't have a problem increasing the hole size slightly in the new CF insert, but not crazy about the small gap that is appearing between the body and the CF insert. Its a black marker and the raw aluminum sticks out like a sore thumb. Anyone else having this issue? Is gluing the CF insert to the body the solution? If so, what glue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPBN View Post
    Got mine in today and having some issues. Seems like the body is sliding backwards just slightly. It is enough to cause the body to interfere with the sear. When I compare to another CF body that I have, I noticed that the hole in the body that the on/off pin goes through is slightly larger in the old body vs the new. Not sure if the previous owner did this. When I swap the CF insert from one body to the next, the old one works in the new body. I don't have a problem increasing the hole size slightly in the new CF insert, but not crazy about the small gap that is appearing between the body and the CF insert. Its a black marker and the raw aluminum sticks out like a sore thumb. Anyone else having this issue? Is gluing the CF insert to the body the solution? If so, what glue?
    for me i would say new cf insert is the best solution.
    My sydarm weighs less than yours!!!

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    Inserts are the same length, so not sure what that will accomplish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPBN View Post
    Inserts are the same length, so not sure what that will accomplish.
    i was just thinking if the insert wrong have a new one replace it.

    but if you want to glue it there are some good stuff out there.
    just give a carbon fiber plate company a call and ask them what they recommend to glue cf to aluminum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knownothingmags View Post
    i was just thinking if the insert wrong have a new one replace it.

    but if you want to glue it there are some good stuff out there.
    just give a carbon fiber plate company a call and ask them what they recommend to glue cf to aluminum.
    Call Deadlywind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBLife View Post
    Call Deadlywind...
    not what we are talking about here.

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    Thinking some simple two part epoxy will do it from a couple of things I read.

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    OPBN-

    I purposely did not use any kind of glue to attach the CF tube to the remainder of the bodies. The CF tube slips on with a very slight press fit instead. I did this in case, for whatever reason, the CF tube cracked, or was crushed under misuse - the user could simply pull off the old one and press on a new sleeve. I would not recommend using any kind of glue or epoxy on the interface for this reason.

    I'm not sure how exactly the new tube could differ from one I've done in the past because I've always used the same dimensions. The sear slot and on/off pin are scaled down a bit from a ULE body, but have worked great in all of my testing and for many other users. Could you get a picture of the slot and holes from the two different sleeves side by side so I can see whats going on with them?

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    The slots are the same. The only difference is that the hole that the the sear pushes the on/off through is larger on the older one I have. Both inserts seem to slide back a little when I fire the marker which then causes the insert to slightly block the on/off pin. The larger hole in the older one keeps this from happening.

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    Warped, If you ever continue this upgrade put me on the next list!

    Thank you sir!

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    OPBN -

    So when the new sleeve is correctly installed (and hasn't slid back yet) everything works fine? If that is the case, then thin coat of blue Loctite between the CF sleeve and body should provide the extra adhesion needed to keep the sleeve from vibrating loose. I would use blue Loctite as you can heat it up to break the bond if you ever need to later on. This is the first case I've ever run into of this happening, but I don't doubt what you're saying.

    Let me know if that works or if we need to try something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warpedmephisto View Post
    OPBN -

    So when the new sleeve is correctly installed (and hasn't slid back yet) everything works fine?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by warpedmephisto
    If that is the case, then thin coat of blue Loctite between the CF sleeve and body should provide the extra adhesion needed to keep the sleeve from vibrating loose. I would use blue Loctite as you can heat it up to break the bond if you ever need to later on. This is the first case I've ever run into of this happening, but I don't doubt what you're saying.

    Let me know if that works or if we need to try something else.
    I'll try this. I would say it was an aberation of some sort, but it happens with both inserts on the same body. I need to try the inserts with the other body and see it if does it as well. Honestly, the other one I have has been sitting here for some time. I didnt notice any issues with it, but since the one hole is milled out a bit, it wouldnt have the issue. Can't say if I noticed whether it slid back or not.

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    Got mine ....

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    @OPBN:
    did you get to fix the issue with yours? Can't test mine yet, won't be playing till mid May probably ...

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