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    Ultra Light Mag

    I have more than a few projects going at the moment and here is another one. This one has been a while in the making.

    Here it is, Only missing a sear at the moment and it is so light it feels like a toy. I will get a true weight at the post office later because my scale wont work at the moment. Its well under 2 lbs though.

    This was a collaboration between me and the Devil (Devilman). I still plan to take a good amount of weight off the valve but the progress so far and it is looking good.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-ibOsyGYAc







    Last edited by hill160881; 04-28-2011 at 09:01 AM.

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    Nice touch on rounding the back of the rail by the frame.

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    I wonder what weighs less. Capping the valve and using a reg like a stab or fatty? Or just keeping it how you have it?

    If you capped the valve then you could remove that much more rail from the back.

    Also is that a ccm barrel? Does the ccm barrel weigh less then a dw barrel with an insert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothice
    I wonder what weighs less. Capping the valve and using a reg like a stab or fatty? Or just keeping it how you have it?

    If you capped the valve then you could remove that much more rail from the back.

    Also is that a ccm barrel? Does the ccm barrel weigh less then a dw barrel with an insert?
    Also if you caped the valve you could use the reg as the forgrip, I prefure forgrips on my markers.

    DW makes the Null barrel, no inserts just CF and little alum for threads, or stiffie (sp?) makes a full CF barrel with no alum.


    nice mag I like the rail too...

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    Capping the reg is a wash on weight as I discovered. The AGD reg is pretty darn light. That for grip is ultra ultra light.

    As for the rail, it was done with a table saw and a dremmal.

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    whats the plan for the valve? teardrop milling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hill160881
    Capping the reg is a wash on weight as I discovered. The AGD reg is pretty darn light. That for grip is ultra ultra light.

    As for the rail, it was done with a table saw and a dremmal.

    And you still have fingers to fire that thing!!!!!
    Or do you look like this GuY!!!

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    If your just going for ALAP take the foregrip off.

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    You know, the trigger frame and foregrip are really optional. Just use the sear arm as a trigger, the barrel as a foregrip, run it remote, and put that rail on more of a diet. I think you'd see a difference then.


    Yes, this is all in jest.

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    Have you considered making a new regulator/velocity adjustment screw out of aluminum? It is a fairly large piece of stainless steel back there that could see some weight savings from aluminum construction...Maybe switch over to CCM macro fittings too since they are aluminum and the ones on the marker look like stainless...

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    Also, have you considered removing more material from the rail between the gripframe screw and the foregrip mounting screw similar to what you did in the middle of the rail? Just throwing a few things out there...

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    Run a remote, small hopper, then you don't need a foregrip
    Superbolt

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    You need to get with Mongoose for some uber light ULE rail bushings

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    Quote Originally Posted by correia3
    Also, have you considered removing more material from the rail between the gripframe screw and the foregrip mounting screw similar to what you did in the middle of the rail? Just throwing a few things out there...
    The rail only weighs 1.5 oz and is ULEd on the inside so i cant take any more out. The rail flexes already so it is as light as I dare.

    I figure it will be 1.2 lbs when totally done.

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    One thing I regret is never getting around to having that one frame I designed produced.
    Totally ULE'd, the frame would have made for one of the lightest setups ever because you can get rid of the rail.
    I'll bet if the frame were made from glass-filled nylon it would fantastically light... and still no rail.

    I'd be up for producing a few prototypes if someone had the capabilities... all my personal machines are not CNC.

    This version of the design isn't completely ULE'd... it has a cutout for an MPA-3 pneumag piston directly under the on/off and a tab for easy mounting of the MSV-2.
    Notice the cutouts & holes to accomodate a sear directly in the frame.


    This was a plainer version with an integrated 15 degree foregrip.
    This frame could have also accomodated a sear.

    Last edited by Pneumagger; 04-19-2011 at 08:59 AM.

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