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    Need some feedback on what kind of frame you would like to see me manufacture.

    This will be my next project as I’m finally caught up on restocking some inventory and plan on starting the design this coming week. I do have an EP frame pretty much designed, it’s a typical Vert frame that uses Angel grips and non- AGD triggers.

    But, I’m thinking I want to start from scratch, still using the Vert design but utilizing Intelli triggers and shortening the length of the grip down closer to the 45 length (As has been discussed here before). There won’t be any off the shelf grips/panels that will fit so I will have to make those too. Frame would be set up to use stock AGD safety parts. I think the frame should be some what universal with a base platform that would make it easy to build a Pneumag or EPmag (I have some specific ideas in mind for that). And the frame should also operate as a mechanical frame.

    This will not be a pre order deal, I have a small amount of materials I’ll cut up then go from there. I don’t have a set price as this project is only just started (At the top of this page )

    If you have some specific points you would like considered in the design, let’s hear em.


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    Built in snatch grip maybe?

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    speaking for me only, i would rather see a 45 ep frame.
    mill for emag magnets, for trigger return.

    thats all i have for now.
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    86* or 90* single trigger mechanical frame. Wouldnt mind if it accomodated CCM panels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPBN
    86* or 90* single trigger mechanical frame. Wouldnt mind if it accomodated CCM panels.

    I second this but also like the idea of a snatch grip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darring D
    I second this but also like the idea of a snatch grip
    So 90* mechanical with a snatche grip.

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    a 'mini' vert frame would be awsome, especially if it will work with stock agd trigger parts...

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    Take pneumagger's idea from 2008 and get it moving! A single piece, vert frame / rail and 15* ASA, all Ultra-ULE'd! Frame must have a pocket for a vertical MPA-3 to actuate the sear as well so that one could use it as mech / pneu or e-pneu easily enough with no need to modify the frame.

    I'd love to get one of those.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OPBN
    86* or 90* single trigger mechanical frame. Wouldnt mind if it accomodated CCM panels.
    This... I would buy an 86* Ccm style frame for mags in a heartbeat. Single trigger would be sweet too even if it's an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sQuidvision
    This... I would buy an 86* Ccm style frame for mags in a heartbeat. Single trigger would be sweet too even if it's an option.
    Well, an 86* frame with a modular trigger-guard that would allow one to change between single and double should not be so hard to do and would certainly be interesting. Make a pocket for a trigger switch or a lever to actuate a MSV-2 using the single trigger and you have a winning product as well. As you can see, I'd love to have anything modular. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpsd
    Well, an 86* frame with a modular trigger-guard that would allow one to change between single and double should not be so hard to do and would certainly be interesting. Make a pocket for a trigger switch or a lever to actuate a MSV-2 using the single trigger and you have a winning product as well. As you can see, I'd love to have anything modular. LOL
    Great idea actually. Make it similiar to a Tippmann where you swap out the trigger guard depending if you want it single or double. Make it so that it accepts AGD double triggers and come out with intellitrigger based single triggers. I like.

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    Why would an 86* be better than a 90* frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luke
    Why would an 86* be better than a 90* frame?
    It wouldnt be if it didnt accept CCM panels. A shortened 90* would be fine, but there has to be an alternative to aluminum panels. IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPBN
    So 90* mechanical with a snatche grip.

    I've only used an 86* so I can't say yah or nah on a 90*.. A single trigger 86* with a snatch grip would be nice! Heck, make a 86* double trigger to take the intelliframe trigger too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darring D
    I've only used an 86* so I can't say yah or nah on a 90*.. A single trigger 86* with a snatch grip would be nice! Heck, make a 86* double trigger to take the intelliframe trigger too!
    4* would be tough to discern.

    What about a 90* with a modular bottom that could be either a short of tall 90*?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPBN
    It wouldnt be if it didnt accept CCM panels. A shortened 90* would be fine, but there has to be an alternative to aluminum panels. IMO.

    I took the panels off all my CCM 86* frames and run Hogue wrap around grips on them.
    Click me to see hogue grips

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    I think an 86* that takes CCM/Hogue grips would be cool because no-one ever did it for a Mag so far. 90* frames are aplenty already, be it tall (Logic / RPG / VER / M90) or short (Logic UMF / RPG Triton).

    So, if you are going to do new, do it new indeed!

    Just my .02

    Last edited by mpsd; 08-02-2012 at 08:38 PM.

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    im not too hung up on the angel... 90* is cool with me too... but the CCM frames are very comfortable in the hands, and the ability to use their panels would be a nice plus.

    If you take anything from my posts though let it be that a single trigger frame would be super!

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    Well, the last single trigger frame developed for a Mag was the CF one, developed on the early 90s, ~20 years ago. So, yeah, I agree that it would be cool to have a new one as well. I dream about an e-pneu, single trigger Mag. Use it with some light ramping and you have the ultimate sleeper Mag!

    I want one for this Mag:
    Last edited by mpsd; 08-02-2012 at 08:46 PM.

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    90* single frame... Mechanical..

    The Angel one is SO nice and SO comfortable.

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    i am definently on board with the single trigger pneu frame.
    that would be sweet,

    i am definently over the 90* frames.

    but whatever you make will be good.

    i will not be buying another 90* frame not my style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knownothingmags
    i am definently on board with the single trigger pneu frame.
    that would be sweet,

    i am definently over the 90* frames.

    but whatever you make will be good.

    i will not be buying another 90* frame not my style.
    I don't truly see the point of another single trigger 45*. Benchmarks are still made and CF's are abundant. A single 90 or 86 is the only thing that is currently unavailable for an Automag.

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    Single / Modular 86* FTW!!!

    Hey, Luke, why don't you start a poll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPBN
    I don't truly see the point of another single trigger 45*. Benchmarks are still made and CF's are abundant. A single 90 or 86 is the only thing that is currently unavailable for an Automag.
    oh i see what you are saying, a single trigger 90*?
    that would be different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knownothingmags
    oh i see what you are saying, a single trigger 90*?
    that would be different.
    I actually like the idea of a modular like MPSD is saying. A 90 with an optional single or double trigger guard.

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    86 or 90, single trigger, snatch and "universal" (pneu,mech,ep).

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    Emag y-frame but I think the board is the problem here not the frame

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    A 90 frame would be nice or a decent looking 45

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    I think you should make this:


    Quote Originally Posted by Pneumagger
    One thing I regret is never getting around to having that one frame I designed produced.
    Totally ULE'd, the frame would have made for one of the lightest setups ever because you can get rid of the rail.
    I'll bet if the frame were made from glass-filled nylon it would fantastically light... and still no rail.

    I'd be up for producing a few prototypes if someone had the capabilities... all my personal machines are not CNC.

    This version of the design isn't completely ULE'd... it has a cutout for an MPA-3 pneumag piston directly under the on/off and a tab for easy mounting of the MSV-2.
    Notice the cutouts & holes to accomodate a sear directly in the frame.


    This was a plainer version with an integrated 15 degree foregrip.
    This frame could have also accomodated a sear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BTAutoMag
    I think you should make this:
    Well, that was my very first suggestion if you look above.

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