What do they call it when you pay people to vote for you... There's a word for that, right?
i like videos like that,
funny for a few seconds then when i think about it,
it is sad.
people in general are funny.
Originally Posted by emcl29
Ignorant, but not asking for free ****. Except the mentally handicapped guy, but...
Juvenal in Satire X wrote about the danger of bread and games (or bread and circus) politics. It applies today.
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
I like this one
feel free to discuss about loss of fail in humanity in:
That is of course incorrect.Originally Posted by cockerpunk
Do you want to know the truth ?
Its been around for a lot longer than that.
Why take the word of a self avowed liberal democratic activist (the author of the above article) ?
Why not go to the horses mouth ?
Originally Posted by cockerpunk
"The program expanded to include cell phones in 2008. That change has rapidly increased the cost to the federal government—$1.6 billion in 2011, up from $772 million in 2008. The number of Lifeline beneficiaries rose from 7.1 million to 12.5 million during the same period; cell phones account for roughly half of that 12.5 million."
ObamaPhones Profiting ObamaDonors
The "universal service fee" was sold as a bill of good to the American public for the purpose of bringing out of the way rural areas phone service. It looks like it was expanded in the Bush era (not sure if by GW himself of congress, with GW signing it obviously) to include subsidizing landline service for low income households.
Another perfect example of how once an entitlement gets put in place it grows out of control and becomes impossible to get rid of.
Home of the Nice, Nice Automag people.
Since when did phone service become a right? If the aim is provide access to emergecy services to those without phones why not give them phone that can only dial emergency numbers?
Because that isn't good enough to buy a vote with.Originally Posted by correia3
Originally Posted by cockerpunk
Crap like this upsets me. I realize there is a need for some sorts of public assistance, but at what point is the line crossed from a helping hand to a handout? My wife works for the local school system as a secretary and makes about $20k/year + insurance benefits. The benefits are the ONLY reason she keeps this job as they are worth an additional 20k or so per year. Plus it gives her most of the summer off. She works hard for what she makes.
Only reason I mention her job is that she sees all the people that come in that are on some sort of assistance. IIRC, nearly 40% + of the students in our school system are receiving free/reduced lunches. And since they qualify for that, they also get their school fees waived. Most of these people also fall below the income line and pay little to any local school taxes and/or income taxes. I will also note that MANY of them are unwed. Even in cases where the father or a live in boyfriend is in the picture. They also continue to have kids!
Further, it angers me to no end watching someone throw down their WIC voucher and then pull out a wad of cash to buy their 3-4 packs of cigarettes.
I could go on for days about this. The system is soooo broken.
Last edited by OPBN; 10-09-2012 at 09:41 AM.
You think that's bad. A friend of mine was renting his house out to HUD in a semi large city. According to his neighbor to said house and good friend, the people that moved in is a women, unmarried, 5 kids, driving a 6 series BMW and her boyfriend that lives there as well which is also her babies daddy and works for some big corp is running around in a '11 Escalade.Originally Posted by OPBN
They pay $120 a month of the $2000+ rent he receives from the city. Talk about F'ed up. The moment he found out he talked to the city but the city didnt give a crap.
People do this all the time around here. The bad part is the kids see this and the parrents show them how its done, basically enabling their children and the cycle continues but is multiplied by how many kids she pushes out. It's only going to get worse as time passes and our economy is going to be crushed due to it. In Baltimore, it's a way of life and is encouraged by the parasite parents around here.
Originally Posted by correia3Originally Posted by BigEvilOriginally Posted by BigEvil
Originally Posted by knownothingmags
Originally Posted by OPBNOriginally Posted by Ando
facts > AO OT
obamaphone.net has been a scam website from the beginning. hundreds of sources have confirmed this. i mean c'mon guys, its OBAMAPHONE.NET .... should have been your first hint its made up. lets at least think for a second before we go off the handle.
Last edited by cockerpunk; 10-09-2012 at 10:33 AM.
You should listen to Cockerpunk. He knows everything.
That's because he's an engineerOriginally Posted by Frizzle Fry
goin off the handle again.....Originally Posted by cockerpunk
wait for it......
It's a shame that something like Life Link got so twisted into another gimme program.
Its what they do (the government/politicians )Originally Posted by pillage
Well in about three weeks, we will get to voice our opinions on the National Day of Displeasure. It is the first Tuesday in November.Originally Posted by going_home
judging from this thread, it looks like a day to show how uninformed half the population is because of there rumor mill conservative media.Originally Posted by pillage
Thats they key to reasonable political discourse.Originally Posted by cockerpunk
Anyone who does not agree with me is uniformed, uneducated, or just plain stupid...
Rather than putting together a logical argument complete with facts and premises, or poltely pointing out flaws in others premises we will just use sound bites and insults to prove our superior position
Last edited by Lohman446; 10-10-2012 at 01:58 PM.
you can take whatever political stance you want to, but obamaphone, as the conservative media has painted it, is simply factually incorrect. I have not stated an opinion in this thread politically, so you cannot agree or disagree with my politics. i have only posted the debunking of OPs claims. because, they are simply false.Originally Posted by Lohman446
Right. No attempt at insult in your posts anywhere. My bad...Originally Posted by cockerpunk
interesting that you find facts insulting.Originally Posted by Lohman446
what does this say about your position?