force fed hopper and twist lock barrels? great day of play.

[blackdeath1k]

Had a great day of playing woods / jungle ball with a group in all the rain and storms we have been getting today. Idk. Just different and sweet with the rain coming down. The new creek of water running through the middle of the playing field. And a swamp now on one side to contend with. Kinda like a real life jungle warfare feel.

In play though I came to an odd question that I do not feel fits in the tech forum. Maybe though. For years I've used a old revolution with my first gen automag rt. No problems at all. Recently I got a halo too for a good price new. So figured I'd step in to the new generation of play. Now I'm having a small issue with paint going past the nubbin and double feeding. No chopping or broken paint though. And I was just wondering if this was a normal deal with the nubbins. Nothing major to stop play. Or slow me down. Just wondering if the change in hopper is truly the difference causing this.

[StygShore]

The halo had programming to soften the force feed, I found with the nubbins I usually set the force to the lowest possible, it corrected the double ( or more ) feed and always kept up with my firing still


Styg

[GoatBoy]

Most force fed hoppers MO is to keep the stack under constant pressure by loading up a spring until some setpoint.

The nubbins are somewhat light and can have difficulty with force feed hoppers. And most TL barrels only have 1 nubbin.

And then complicating the matter is if you have small bore paint that will want to also sneak past that already light nubbin.

There are workarounds, but given all the complexity, I'd just as soon get a mag2cocker adapter with 2 detents.

[blackdeath1k]

Man I was afraid of hearing that. I love my twist lock barrel. So quick and easy to remove and change. Or clean. Or anything. I may mess with the settings on the hopper. It is set stock. I've never messed with it. If that doesn't work I'll suck it up and look in to an adapter. How sad though. What kind of detent does the adapter use?

OK. Now that I've hunted down the info on the adaptor. Does the spyder detent really work that much better than the agd design? If so first thing I'll try is retrofitting one of them in my barrel.

[GoatBoy]

I actually think they work better as they stick further into the chamber. I'm sure others may have opinions on this as well.

If you have only one barrel that you love, I guess you could try retrofitting it if you have access to the machinery. You could also maybe put one on a less-than-favorite barrel just to test it out... but this is all getting into the complexity.

[blackdeath1k]

Haha. This is basic small time fab here. I'm not apposed to slotting the barrel on a mill to put 2 spyder detents in. But I would test that for a good setup. If it worked well I will hunt down a rare twist lock freak and clone the setup with the freak. But I will start with a spyder detent in what I've got now. I really only use 2 barrels. My 12" dye ultralite. And a 16" AA barrel that has a little smaller I'd back and is quieter. But more cumbersome with close quarter speedball.

If you have any other thoughts I'm game. If not. I'll run with this idea for now. Since its gonna cost more in shipping than the detents will cost.