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Thread: hardline macrolines, how do you get them or who makes installs them?

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    hardline macrolines, how do you get them or who makes installs them?

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    some people have used the Phantom hardline from CCI(from the valve to a vert). i have a custom set of SS hardline that Doc Nickle made on a custom cocker. i have heard that you can use breakline, but i don't know the fittings used to attach it to the gun.

    though the hardline looks great; you have the choice of easy to use/easy to find and replace marcoline, easy to use/easy to find SS braided hose, or the hardline. that's the biggest thing about it and why its not used more often.

    the one thing with the hardline is that you have to take it off the gun in order. you can't drop the valve in the field, if you need to clean the bolt off if it gets covered in paint,

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    Are you talking about the rigid stainless airline like the upper line in this pic?


    <a href="http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/SidedraftDats/media/Automags/ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s588/SidedraftDats/Automags/ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg" border="0" alt="Classic RT Before Upgrades (L) photo ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg"/></a>

    If so; then you can get the compression fittings from McMaster Carr

    Part # 8239k73 For a 90 deg fitting
    or
    Part# 8239K13 For a straight fitting

    The proper fittings plus a piece of 3/16" Stainless tubing and you're set to make your own.

    You'll want to have a tubing cutter too, but those are available cheaply at most any hardware store.

    There is another way to do hardlines, using the A/N type flare fittings. That requires a special flare tool though, and those are kinda spendy.

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    someone correct me if I am wrong, but I thought all hardlines have to be flared for them to seal???

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    The flared end helps hold the line in place in the fitting in high pressure situations. Hardlines don't need to be flared to seal, though. As long as there is a sealing edge, it will hold air. Often that edge is an oring and compression fitting.
    Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levi View Post
    Are you talking about the rigid stainless airline like the upper line in this pic?


    <a href="http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/SidedraftDats/media/Automags/ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s588/SidedraftDats/Automags/ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg" border="0" alt="Classic RT Before Upgrades (L) photo ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg"/></a>

    If so; then you can get the compression fittings from McMaster Carr

    Part # 8239k73 For a 90 deg fitting
    or
    Part# 8239K13 For a straight fitting

    The proper fittings plus a piece of 3/16" Stainless tubing and you're set to make your own.

    You'll want to have a tubing cutter too, but those are available cheaply at most any hardware store.

    There is another way to do hardlines, using the A/N type flare fittings. That requires a special flare tool though, and those are kinda spendy.

    I got the fittings, but which tubing is it? They have so many. 89995k261 ? Thank you for the detailed info.
    Last edited by djinnform; 06-17-2013 at 09:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djinnform View Post
    I got the fittings, but which tubing is it? They have so many. 89995k261 ? Thank you for the detailed info.
    When I ordered from them I wasn't sure which wall thickness tubing to use so I ordered a couple different ones.
    89785K299 is 0.020" wall thickness for an id of 0.148"
    89785K217 is 0.028" wall thickness for an id of 0.132"

    I don't remember which one I ended up using but I can look when I get home this evening and post it up here.

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    Just checked and the one I used was the .028 wall (89785K217).

    I popped the hardline loose on the RT pictured above and measured it just to be sure. According to my calipers it measures the same as the tubing I used... so if it was good enough for AGD to send it out on their markers, its good enough to plumb up my gear. Imho

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    so I was looking on McMaster and noticed that they have aluminum 6061 tubing, anyone know if that can be used and which one/thickness to get? and what fittings for it? I was looking for both so I can anodizing with marker.

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    Check pressure ratings. And when in doubt. Call. We use McMaster at work all the time. Always great to deal with.

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    I told the girl what I was using it for, and she chose the .35 wall for me. Probably worried I would blow myself up. They tell you the PSI rating next to the part number.

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    I'd pick some up off ya if it's cheap, how many feed did you get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat15k View Post


    Whoo Whee!! DooD thats AweSome BrothA!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by need4reebs View Post
    Whoo Whee!! DooD thats AweSome BrothA!!!!
    Thanks man!

    For those interested, I used McMaster 89965K442

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat15k View Post
    Thanks man!

    For those interested, I used McMaster 89965K442
    i see a new trend about to happen...haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat15k View Post
    Thanks man!

    For those interested, I used McMaster 89965K442
    Is that with ccm fittings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_losjoker View Post
    Is that with ccm fittings?
    yeah man...3 CCM and one regular straight fitting...how Kool is that eh???

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    Quote Originally Posted by need4reebs View Post
    Whoo Whee!! DooD thats AweSome BrothA!!!!
    This would have saved me a lot of money, if I saw this first. Very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat15k View Post


    That's slick!

    I wouldn't have thought the ccm fittings would be able to grip the hardline well enough to not blow it out. I'm going to have to try that.

    Have you had any sealing issues with this setup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levi View Post
    That's slick!

    I wouldn't have thought the ccm fittings would be able to grip the hardline well enough to not blow it out. I'm going to have to try that.

    Have you had any sealing issues with this setup?
    This setup has only existed for about 18 hours now, so it hasn't passed the test of time. I initially had some issues with sealing, but shoving in 3 o-rings in the ccm fittings fixed it right up. A Ninja SHP tank still caused some leaks, so more tweaking will be necessary if that's what you want to use. I need to get my tanks filled and get back to testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat15k View Post
    Thanks man!

    For those interested, I used McMaster 89965K442
    did you or anyone else happen to look at the easy-bend aluminum tubing, can be bent by hand and its the same spec thickness as the one you got. but you can get 10ft for under $20 and 25 for under 22. it is a different aluminum 3033 so for anodizing I don't know if it would come out the same color as the rest of the marker that is 6061.

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    For me, the 6061 was a significant factor and having rigid tubing should help maintain a clean appearance. Hand-bendable may be a viable option though.

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