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Thread: Video: Pnuemag vs. SHP RT mag

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    Video: Pnuemag vs. SHP RT mag

    Just got my SHP reg mounted on a tank and I wanted to compare to RT RoF to what I can pull on my Pneumag.
    Chexor out:

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    .Wav analysts:
    First I looked at the first seven shots to confirm it was 1 peak per shot:
    sevenshots.png
    Then the pneumag (14 cps)
    pneumag14.png
    Then the RT (also 14 cps)
    rt14.png

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    Are you one fingering 14bps on the pneu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPBN View Post
    Are you one fingering 14bps on the pneu?
    Yeah. I grew up in an arcade. It's a Street Fighter skill born from ::jab jab throw:: lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgop2.0 View Post
    Yeah. I grew up in an arcade. It's a Street Fighter skill born from ::jab jab throw:: lol.
    Fess up. You played as Blanka and just sat back crouched in his electric mode the entire round, didn't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justus View Post
    Fess up. You played as Blanka and just sat back crouched in his electric mode the entire round, didn't you?
    lol. If it worked I would have done it. I'm the cheapest.

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    ooo, can you Analise some of my vids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTAutoMag View Post
    ooo, can you Analise some of my vids?
    Yes(ish). I'm using ZS4 a (free) video editor so it would probably be easier for you to do yourself. Depending on recording device and/or conditions, the waveform is sometimes 2 (even 3) peaks per shot. So you need a control at the beginning where you know exactly how many you've fired. If you are in a confined space the echo can cause "false" peaks. If you are shooting paint at nearby targets you can get false peaks as well.

    Once I looked at my control string (seven shots) I could then read the wav. I zoomed in on a 1 second section of the .wav (zooms using the mouse wheel and displays the amount of time represented in the window).

    Let me try on the ones you posted.... stay tuned

    AND:
    BTRT.png

    This is from your w/paint video shot outside. Without a control string it's hard to tell peaks per shot so this either represents 10.5 or 21 cps. The ear test tells me 21.
    Last edited by Patron God of Pirates; 08-20-2013 at 01:26 PM.

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    Nice vids!

    I ways enjoy watching comparisons like that.

    Is it possible you can do one of my videos as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TyeStick View Post
    Nice vids!

    I ways enjoy watching comparisons like that.

    Is it possible you can do one of my videos as well?
    Sure. Ill give it a shot when I get in tomorrow.

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    I was sure someone was going to comment on your tiny little bowling balls Having played Candlepin my entire life I can't understand how people can play 10 pin.

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    So what is the output pressure on your SHP reg ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatliner333 View Post
    So what is the output pressure on your SHP reg ?
    It was reading 1150 at the shop. We couldn't decide if the gauge was 50 high or 50 low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgop2.0 View Post
    It was reading 1150 at the shop. We couldn't decide if the gauge was 50 high or 50 low.
    14 is on the low side for 1100. It may pick up later. So, when a field says "no RT", you get out the pneu anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-TW View Post
    14 is on the low side for 1100. It may pick up later. So, when a field says "no RT", you get out the pneu anyway.
    When I first set it up it was faster (not sure how much but it was noticable). I switched out the on/off pin (.73ish) for the stock pin. Then I tooled around with the lx a bit. The combination of the two slowed down the effect to the point where it wont truely sweet spot. I'm assuming it will gear up a bit when the carrier oring wears in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TyeStick View Post
    ...
    From the second vid. 23 - 24 bps!
    tybps.png
    ROF is very consistent on each of your strings.

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    did you get a chance on mine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTAutoMag View Post
    did you get a chance on mine?
    Check post #8.

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    some times i'm REALLY blind

    21 bps with the SHP at its lowest setting... hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTAutoMag View Post
    some times i'm REALLY blind
    21 bps with the SHP at its lowest setting... hmmm
    What are you using for an on/off? What pin length?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgop2.0 View Post
    From the second vid. 23 - 24 bps!
    tybps.png
    ROF is very consistent on each of your strings.
    Thanks pg!

    That speed is pretty impressive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TyeStick View Post
    Thanks pg!

    That speed is pretty impressive!
    No problem mang. Found a nice virus free service that can download and re-encode any vids off the web (keepvid.com). The I separate the audio in ZS4 and open the sound file in Audacity. All free stuff if anyone is interested in doing it themselves. And yes, impressive speed! How controllable is that?

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    not a clue, I'll measure it when I get home. lol

    did you do the other vid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgop2.0 View Post
    No problem mang. Found a nice virus free service that can download and re-encode any vids off the web (keepvid.com). The I separate the audio in ZS4 and open the sound file in Audacity. All free stuff if anyone is interested in doing it themselves. And yes, impressive speed! How controllable is that?
    I tried using the ZS4 software, but once I opened it up, I just sat there staring... I was like, so wher do I go from here? LOL
    I'm not in the least familiar with how software like that works.

    The speed is very controllable. It has kick at first, but it's usually with a user who hasn't shot the mag before, and doesn't know what to expect. (In terms of recoil/smoothness). If you watch the first video closely that I posted, you can see that my friend delt with a small amount of muzzle lift right at the beginning of the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTAutoMag View Post
    did you do the other vid?
    I tried but there was a ton of echo so the wav is hard to read:
    BTNProf.png

    Looks like 19 if you count only the highest/widest peaks.

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    ill redo it outside, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TyeStick View Post
    I tried using the ZS4 software, but once I opened it up, I just sat there staring... I was like, so wher do I go from here? LOL
    I'm not in the least familiar with how software like that works.
    Yep. There is a definite learning curve (which I'm still on). Like allot of Open Source and freeware most of the attention gets paid to the functionality and the UI sucks.

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    Want to take a stab at figuring out the ROF here?
    Steve Shuey, Team Crimson Reign

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    Here:
    kartault.png
    12cps!
    This is the most consistent single second. It's a little all over the place, but that is what always happens with trigger walking. Without software to normalize (in fact enhance) ROF, all trigger walking would look and sound like that. Still that's very impressive for a purely mechanical trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgop2.0 View Post
    Yep. There is a definite learning curve (which I'm still on). Like allot of Open Source and freeware most of the attention gets paid to the functionality and the UI sucks.
    What are you using again? I use Audacity (open source) and find it pretty easy to work with. That's how I determined that my SHP reg set to 1100 psi on my Emag (the day the battery died) was way too fast. Video here, showing a clip of me dumping a Q-pod into a metal bunker to make some noise, at 20.5 bps (@ 1:00 mark): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djHYk...d4sbiE-b8d6hQ#
    Last edited by Justus; 08-23-2013 at 10:57 AM.

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