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    I have an xvalve I desperately want to shoot ropes

    Will a ULE help me tune my xvalve to Response trigger?

    All I want it 10 to 15 bps...
    My valve is totaly capable of RTing, I put a classic rt on-off in it and it RTed wit no problem. Onlg problem is the pin is broken so I need a new one... I have tried to use 147 lengh on-off pin but its still a little too short, I need somthing like a 50...

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    if you want to shoot 10-15 bps consistently, reliability, and cheaply ... i'd go buy a different gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
    if you want to shoot 10-15 bps consistently, reliability, and cheaply ... i'd go buy a different gun.


    I love my minimag too much. I need a solotion for for my mag I know its capaple.
    I dont care about bps I jutlst want a fun mag

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    A ULT on/off will not improve your reactive trigger. The stock RT on/off is the best start. The pin doesn't often break by itself. It usually breaks when the valve is pulled out of the body without pulling the trigger first to push the pin up inside the on/off body. Sometimes a missing rail bushing lets the frame/sear and valve get sideways and hang up the pin as well. You had it right. Put it back in order and be nice to it. It should continue to RT all you want.

    Welcome to AO!

    Also, the standard classic and RT on/off pin length is 0.750 inches.

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    hey brassmag get ahold of tuna at tunamart.com or look him up on here and let him know you need a new on/off pin...that will get ya shooting again.

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    This has been alot of help thank you all very much.


    Back to discussion.

    I do want the reactive trigger feel. I want that machine gun mag ... so I dont think I want ULT.

    And you did conferm what I expected that I need a 150 or longer pin that I can shave down if I have too...
    I also think I need slippery orings. The rt classic on-off lis really slick but the xvalve onoff is grippy...

    Any more info would be great I feel that I am all ready on my way to a solution and I am impressed. Thank you all


    One other problem.. I cant get ahold of agd.. I have been calling all week and last week. Any help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
    if you want to shoot 10-15 bps consistently, reliability, and cheaply ... i'd go buy a different gun.
    Yea, what do you shoot, a spyder? I mean their cheap, they work, and are capable of 10-15BPS. Just about every single paintball gun can shoot 10-15 BPS, what matters is performance, efficiency, comfort and weight and overall personal preference, in the case of everybody happy with what they have, that means they have reached what they prefer. Don't join this forum and budge in on threads telling people to get different markers, actually stay on topic and help them out with their tech issue instead of telling them what to do with their money.

    Brassmag- the X-valve is already easily capable of 10-15 BPS, it just matters how good you are with the trigger, but a ULT (a ULE is just a body) will definitely give you that ability.

    I would say a double trigger frame (like an Intelli or one of its variants) and a ULT will be fine. But if you are looking to rip and go for bounce then get a shorter pin (stock pin still works fine) and get 950+psi input into your valve.

    EDIT: Forgot to mention, like spider Tw said below, the ULT does not make it more reactive, it make an easier and quicker trigger pull that you can "almost" walk. So you could still get around 10-15 with the ULT though. Wasn't sure if you we're looking for more reactivity though.

    Ad then of course there is always pneumags
    Last edited by Freedy500; 09-11-2013 at 02:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedy500 View Post
    Yea, what do you shoot, a spyder? I mean their cheap, they work, and are capable of 10-15BPS. Just about every single paintball gun can shoot 10-15 BPS, what matters is performance, efficiency, comfort and weight and overall personal preference, in the case of everybody happy with what they have, that means they have reached what they prefer. Don't join this forum and budge in on threads telling people to get different markers, actually stay on topic and help them out with their tech issue instead of telling them what to do with their money.
    ooo lots o hate. i also like the join date argument, cuddos, did you look at mine? hahaha

    just sayin, if the goal is to shoot ropes, a 250 dollar gun will do it better, easier, and cheaper then any automag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
    ooo lots o hate. i also like the join date argument, cuddos, did you look at mine? hahaha

    just sayin, if the goal is to shoot ropes, a 250 dollar gun will do it better, easier, and cheaper then any automag.
    I didn't bring up join date, I boroughs up the fact you are here. If you don't like automags then leave.this Automags.org. And I can make/get an automag that's shoots ropes, better, quicker and will shoot more for less than $250, so whatever $250 gun your talkin about I could get an automag that can outshoot and outperform it for less than $250.

    Now back on topic like this thread was intended for,

    Brassmag- you don't have to get slippery orings and such. Just get this
    http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/in...fo&prodId=1865
    And get around a SHP or a reg on your HPA tank with around a 1100psi output. Get a good force feed loader (Halos, Rotors, Qloaders, etc... Work) and get a good feel for the reactivity of the trigger. If you want it to be all the time then grind the pin down just a tiny bit at a time.

    Read this, Zak Vetter made a website filled with all you need to know about this and more, check it out here
    http://www.zakvetter.com/pages/paint...mags_main.html

    That should be all you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedy500 View Post
    I didn't bring up join date, I boroughs up the fact you are here. If you don't like automags then leave.this Automags.org. And I can make/get an automag that's shoots ropes, better, quicker and will shoot more for less than $250, so whatever $250 gun your talkin about I could get an automag that can outshoot and outperform it for less than $250.
    .
    i love automags. i simply don't make ridiculous performance excuses for them.

    and no you can't make an automag that shoots ropes better and faster, easier then a more modern 250 dollar gun, esp if you look on the used market.

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