classic valve w/ level 10 max rof

[keiko_819]

so when ever i play its either with a x valved mag or a pump mag...the x's never have a problem keeping up with my fingers and the pump is just that, pump and shoot...but when i played with a classic valve w/ level ten it seemed like the valve would not keep up with my shooting...i would get about 3 or 4 quick shots and then the valve seemed like it was starving for air? about 850 output tank(same tank i use on with my x valves)...i know the recharge rate is way slower in a classic but is this the norm for the valve?thanks

[Stealthpanda]

I think it was capped at 16, before dropoff, although the trigger pull is so heavy, I doubt anyone could get above 10-12ish... maybe spiking, but not steady. IDK man.

[athomas]

The level 10 will generally be a slight bit lower rate of fire than a level 7 mag, but not by much. The average user won't notice, because at that rate of fire, there are more inaccuracies due to user induced gun wobble than by any slight velocity drop off.

Starvation of a level 10 classic valve is more a result of level 10 bolt stick causing a slower than normal reset than it is function of a slower recharge rate.

[keiko_819]

The level 10 will generally be a slight bit lower rate of fire than a level 7 mag, but not by much. The average user won't notice, because at that rate of fire, there are more inaccuracies due to user induced gun wobble than by any slight velocity drop off.

Starvation of a level 10 classic valve is more a result of level 10 bolt stick causing a slower than normal reset than it is function of a slower recharge rate.

maybe i just need to break in the level 10 a little more? or do you think i should mess with the carriers? it currently doesnt have any leaks but i know is should be able to shoot faster than 4 in a row wihout drop off?

[Spider-TW]

maybe i just need to break in the level 10 a little more? or do you think i should mess with the carriers? it currently doesnt have any leaks but i know is should be able to shoot faster than 4 in a row wihout drop off?

Yes, if you are not chuffing with the trigger, a classic valve will run over 10bps easily. 14bps in ep's and pneus, and occasionally 18bps with a lot of work.

Do you know if this mag shot fine without a level 10? There are plenty of other causes of shoot down. One is that the trigger rod has no gap behind the trigger.

[Beemer]

i know the recharge rate is way slower in a classic but is this the norm for the valve?thanks

Its not as slow as you think it is.

Here we go. Classic valve 20BPS no shoot down. Just put a Hyper frame on it.

Where did Hitech Go??

https://www.automags.org/forums/showt...-Classic-valve

https://www.automags.org/forums/showt...ghlight=Hitech

ULT should be better. And I made a vid of a classic valve shooting paint at 20bps fullauto, so I think it works just fine.

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/HitechHyper1.avi

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/HitechHyper2.avi.

That is a stock minimag. The tank is a preset PMI 68/3K. It has a level 10 bolt with the short spring (the middle & long spring will not work).

[keiko_819]

Do you know if this mag shot fine without a level 10? There are plenty of other causes of shoot down. One is that the trigger rod has no gap behind the trigger.

i dont know how it shot before the level ten but i kind of have an idea its the frame i have on there, its a dye double trigger frame, maybe i could try to use my intelli on it instead