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    LcMP90 - P90 LPR - VASA

    Coming Soon!
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    Uses standard Intelli style triggers.
    Trigger pin is a standard dowel pin held in with set screws.
    AGD style safety. Everything is identical except it's 1/8" longer. (1/16" per end)
    A standard safety will work in a pinch but not ideal.


    The LcMP90 is a mechanical frame and comes standard with mounts for the T-Rex and the new P90 LPR.

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    The final version has a little more ULE milling on the top side than what is shown here.
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    The stripped down frame as shown below weighs 4 ounces.
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    Size comparison using grip panels.
    The MV frame is about an 1/8" taller than the Intelli frame.
    The LcMP90 is about an 1/8" taller than the Emag frame.
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    ULE milling
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    Video Clip T-Rex, P90 LPR, LcMP90, Retro Valve Test @ 24 CPS
    http://videos.weebly.com/uploads/3/5...test_1_111.mp4

    A few pictures of the test setup
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    Video Clip LPR Testing
    http://videos.weebly.com/uploads/3/5..._video_941.mp4

    A few pictures of the test setup
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    Last edited by luke; 01-24-2018 at 11:31 AM.

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    I'm currently working on the machining programs for these two parts so the prototypes are currently in the works.
    I'm posting these with the frame because the plan is to release everything at the same time.

    This is the CAD file for the LcMP90 and the P90 LPR
    The LP air fitting has a full 'no tool' 360* position adjustment. This is for ease of installation and positioning of the LP hose and fitting.
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    The LPR is designed with o-ring seals for the LP air fitting and the 1/8-27 brass fitting mount, NO tape or thread sealer is necessary.
    The height of the ASA is the same as the AGD Automag ASA minus the wings, but uses the same screw and spacing as the RTP ASA.
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    Click on pictures for larger views.
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    WTF Luke. My money is supposed to go to helping other separate themselves from their Deadly Wind bodies and rails... Not buying more awesome frames with plans to build a pneumag
    RAWR

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    Awesome. Been waiting for this. \m/,


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    Nice !
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    Quote Originally Posted by going_home View Post
    Nice !
    I believe this is what you ask for in the LcE90 frame.

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    are you going to be modding on/offs to go with the sleeper lpr?

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    Quote Originally Posted by captian pinky View Post
    are you going to be modding on/offs to go with the sleeper lpr?
    On/Offs as in On/Off ASA's?

    Yes, that will be something I'll have to do initially. I've always opted out of doing the sleeper mods because other members here were doing them. However with the release of these parts I'll need to, but like I said 'initially'. I say that because my next project after these three will be a new ASA designed specifically for this, actually there will likely be two versions/configurations released at the same time. At least those are my loose plans at this stage, nothing is designed just some specific ideas and direction.

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    Could this be used for the R/T Classic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraMag527 View Post
    Could this be used for the R/T Classic?
    Kind of but not really because I would have to move the T-Rex forward and the amount it takes to make that adjustment isn't doable with the standard T-Rex mounting location. It would have to be made specifically for the RT and with the low production numbers has always made it difficult to support the product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraMag527 View Post
    Could this be used for the R/T Classic?
    If you dont want to go with the T-REX the frame can be drilled to use on the RT.

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    Great, just great. I was supposed to be saving money for your new z-frame but now I don't know which one I want.... first that is

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    I want one

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    I'm planning on getting started on these after Christmas.

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    I lengthened the VASA to make it more symmetrical

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    When will the LcMP90 be ready

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottprocurot View Post
    When will the LcMP90 be ready

    The frame is ready for production, fixtures are made and ready to go, and I have all the materials and tooling, so we're just in a holding pattern at the moment. Before I start that, I need to make the protype LPR so I can test the fitment and the over-all design as it may affect the MP90 and Z-Grip designs. (I'm trying to make this stuff as modular as possible.) That said, the programs are all ready to go on the various LPR pieces, I'm just waiting to get past the holiday to make those parts. Prototyping can be stressful (LOL) and Xmas is just to big of a distraction to start on it. The delays actually worked out perfectly because the Z-Grip initiated some minor changes in the LPR design. All of which was a big improvement for the LPR, VASA, MP90 and the Z grip.

    It shouldn't be long...

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    What will be the cost with out the LPR
    AS I just got FG-Lpr from you

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    We can't talk prices in the main forum but it will probably be the same as the MV.

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    Making head way on the LPR, once the prototype is finished and tested I'll knock these frames out.

    Here's a few pictures of the LPR prototype, first picture shows the modified 1/8 pipe thread compared to a standard fitting. The P90 LPR works in all 1/8 NPT threaded holes and uses an o-ring seal. If there isn't a flat surface for the oring to seal on you can use thread sealer for those applications.

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    Partial assembly, brass fitting with the swivel manifold. Working on the housing next.
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    Full assembly drawing
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    Making some progress, design and machining is dialed in. I still need to machine the MP90 to mount the reg and do the testing, but I should get the machining done tomorrow and get started on testing. When that's done it will go direct to production. This brings both the MP90 and Z2 closer to production, lots of parts to make but we're moving forward.

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    That looks good.
    Excited about the Z2 getting closer!

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    Time for testing.

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    Gas through through frame is done a little differently than what's come before.
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    Last edited by luke; 01-17-2018 at 08:05 PM.

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    Looks awesome, I'll definitely have to set aside some tax money for a new toy.

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    Oh, damn..


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    I realize i'm out of the loop.......a bit.


    What's the deal with gas-through-frame? Is there any point other than avoiding micro/macro/SS line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitroduck View Post
    What's the deal with gas-through-frame? Is there any point other than avoiding micro/macro/SS line?
    It's just a good place to hide the LPR for those guys that like sleeper frames.

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    Out of curiosity will this LPR be able to fit into a Mini Vert frame or will it be an option on future Mini Verts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLachance75 View Post
    will this LPR be able to fit into a Mini Vert frame or will it be an option on future Mini Verts?
    As is, no. With some minor adjustments in the current design, maybe. That said though, I probably wouldn't be interested in retro fitting into existing frames anyway, it's easier just to make the changes and run new ones. The bigger issue is the room (Or the lack there of) to get a hex key into the frame to adjust the LPR.

    The MP90 is taller than the MV by about 0.45" and there's still not room for a standard hex key. I do have several avenues on the MP90 to deal with it, but it's a much bigger issue on the MV. I considered it during the design process of the LPR but do to geometry limits the final design is what it is and cant really be shortened..

    All that said, if you like the MV I think you will also like the MP90.

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    The initial testing on the P90 lpr looks good. I'm going to disassemble the reg and re-mic everything to double check the specs, then do more testing, then I'll gear up for production. The hard part is done so I should be able to knock out all the parts then move right to the next project.

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