Page 1 of 14 1234511 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 403

Thread: Hybrid RTP Rails

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497

    Hybrid RTP Rails

    NOTE: When using the Hybrid rail on an AGD Emag the new solenoid plunger measurement is 2.9336" to 2.9386"

    Introducing the new Hybrid RTP Rail.
    The new design features a redesigned sear pin that is an off the shelf dowel pin which uses two 4-40 set screws to hold it in place.
    Manufactured slug rail size is as follows: 9.2" long, 1.25" wide, and .572" thick
    Finished rails can be as long as the AGD ULE body.
    Its the thickness of an Automag rail and the length of the Original RTP rail and wide enough to cover many designs.
    Rails can be used with twistlock barrels, stainless steel and ULE bodies.
    A sear pin as short as 0.625" can be used. Rail designs will no longer be dictated by the factory sear pin.
    All rails will be sold with replacement sear pins and hardware.
    For those that don't know, all Lc Rails are manufactured from slug rails, they're the first step in all rail designs.
    Manufacturing of the slug rails begin tomorrow and will finish up this coming week.
    In the past, there were rail designs that were only available for the old Automag rails, now all those designs can be made from these slugs.










    Last edited by luke; 10-04-2018 at 11:07 AM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Paso Robles, CA
    Posts
    483
    Sooooooo when's the am length karta rail coming?
    Also does the pin slide in similar to a micro mags?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    Quote Originally Posted by alpha_q_up23 View Post
    Sooooooo when's the am length karta rail coming?
    I would need the CAD file and permission from the owner to do them.

    Quote Originally Posted by alpha_q_up23 View Post
    Also does the pin slide in similar to a micro mags?
    Not sure, this is just an 1/8" hole drilled all the way through the rail.

  4. #4
    Hoping to grab one of these in AM Length, Epsilon style.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Paso Robles, CA
    Posts
    483
    Ahhhh gotcha pretty cool to see a comeback of some of your rails, I'm curious about your new designs

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Oak Lawn, IL, USA
    Posts
    92
    How about doing a homage to the old eclipse style of milling to mag rails. A Lukes custom version of something done years ago might be interesting.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    Quote Originally Posted by Gundam V View Post
    How about doing a homage to the old eclipse style of milling to mag rails. A Lukes custom version of something done years ago might be interesting.
    Can you post a picture?

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Jeet yet ?
    Posts
    7,440
    Quote Originally Posted by Gundam V View Post
    How about doing a homage to the old eclipse style of milling to mag rails. A Lukes custom version of something done years ago might be interesting.
    The ones I've seen just have some notches on the back end of the rail, really nothing special, at least to me.




    Whats the point of the threadless sear pin ?

    To be able to better symmetrically mill both sides of the rail ?



    "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson

  9. #9
    I have an eclipse mag that i can put up photos of later for ya... or I could send you to measure up.

    I have some design ideas... mostly stuff like an even narrower logic alpha, and a rail that is windowed.

    Something like this is what im lookin for:

  10. #10
    7Name:  IMG_0315.JPG
Views: 560
Size:  68.3 KB

  11. #11
    Heres the eclipse rail, right?Name:  u8cud12.jpg
Views: 548
Size:  71.3 KB

  12. #12
    Im thinking minimalist... rear valve channel isnt needed. Foregrip isnt needed. Just mill it down to just whats in the box...Name:  20180819_224034.jpg
Views: 535
Size:  36.9 KB

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    Quote Originally Posted by going_home View Post
    Whats the point of the threadless sear pin ?
    To be able to better symmetrically mill both sides of the rail ?
    Sear pins dictate rail design and even some bodies, all design concepts revolve around it, even the classic AM rail. Form follows function so there's no way around it.

    The ability to run a 5/8" long sear pin removes a great deal of design limitations.
    It also allows me to narrow the thickness of the RTP rail down to the size of a classic Automag rail. The factory RTP rail is thicker to make room for the threaded sear pin.

    Also, I think the best looking rail designs are done on the AM rail, the thinner rail just looks nicer IMO.
    Last edited by luke; 08-20-2018 at 12:07 AM.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    Quote Originally Posted by JimBobFett View Post
    7Name:  IMG_0315.JPG
Views: 560
Size:  68.3 KB

    That's a easy redesign, we can completely remove the center pop out around the sear, just run the same width front to back, like a dog bone.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    Quote Originally Posted by JimBobFett View Post
    Im thinking minimalist... rear valve channel isnt needed. Foregrip isnt needed. Just mill it down to just whats in the box...Name:  20180819_224034.jpg
Views: 535
Size:  36.9 KB
    That's easy...

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Paso Robles, CA
    Posts
    483
    Quote Originally Posted by JimBobFett View Post
    Im thinking minimalist... rear valve channel isnt needed. Foregrip isnt needed. Just mill it down to just whats in the box...Name:  20180819_224034.jpg
Views: 535
Size:  36.9 KB
    Not gonna lie, at a first I thought there'd be no use for this design then I saw the EP block I have sitting waiting for a stock rail for me to hack up and a pistol mag I've been wanting to do and then thought never mind.

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    Quote Originally Posted by awo702 View Post
    Hoping to grab one of these in AM Length, Epsilon style.
    No problem. I just designed one but need to add the ULE milling. I'll post a screen shot of the CAD when it's done.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Paso Robles, CA
    Posts
    483
    Also how about more wavy rails, I like wavy

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    Quote Originally Posted by alpha_q_up23 View Post
    Also how about more wavy rails, I like wavy
    For sure. I've wanted to do the Wave Rail on the RTP Hybrid platform since before those were released.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Paso Robles, CA
    Posts
    483
    Ooooooooooooooooooooooooo hopefully there will be more wave like rails that come out too I'm a solid fan of the wave rail

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    Quote Originally Posted by awo702 View Post
    Hoping to grab one of these in AM Length, Epsilon style.







    Looks good, I like the bottom detail, cleaner the the AM version, the rest of the design is identical to the old one.
    Last edited by luke; 08-20-2018 at 10:30 AM.

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Oak Lawn, IL, USA
    Posts
    92
    I like that style a lot, are you doing pre-orders? If not, how far off from release are they?
    Last edited by Gundam V; 08-20-2018 at 08:56 PM.

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    We'll call it the Ultra Mini

    Rail is 3/4" wide to match most grip frames, lines up with the front of standard grip frames and a little longer in the back to help support the valve.



  24. #24
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    Ultralight Hybrid

    The old style was a little narrow at .65" wide and left a little gap on a standard frame between the frame and rail. I widened this to .75" so it will match exact to the grip frame. I was also able to do away with the center bumps that were there for the sear pin.


  25. #25
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    New Beta Hybrid (8" long)
    Was thinking about doing a medium length beta, somewhere around 8.55"(?)



  26. #26
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Paso Robles, CA
    Posts
    483
    Ooooooh what are the projected prices for these, need to start saving my pennies

  27. #27
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Cottonwood, Az.
    Posts
    7,497
    Quote Originally Posted by alpha_q_up23 View Post
    Ooooooh what are the projected prices for these, need to start saving my pennies
    Same as all the others.

  28. #28
    Yerp... ultra mini! Awesome.

    I was going to mill down an rt pro rail to make that... but i was going to go to 1/2" wide around the sear slot (or maybe some windows into the sear pocket shaped like either a series of holes or like the indents on the ule rails to give it an even slimmer look. That part sticking out behind the grip to support the valve seems boxy... how about either a 30-45 degree slope or step? Hell, I was gonna cut it off 100% but I get it... maybe a little meat for the valve.

    Dogbone looks sweet too. But I was thinking less rounded at the ends and more squared off/angular where it flares out front & back. Like a capitol "I" with serifs.

    I had a new idea for the front grip mounts too... but that will require me to draw something out.
    Last edited by JimBobFett; 08-20-2018 at 11:26 PM.

  29. #29
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Oak Lawn, IL, USA
    Posts
    92
    If its rtp hydrid rail either epsilon or beta style. I'm on board for it, just let me know when your gonna start accepting payment for it. Also, I have one question, would you be willing to do a one off and make one that accepts winged trigger frames. Just got my hands on a z grip and wanna use it on this. Don't wanna mill off the wings on the frame.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk

  30. #30
    Name:  20180820_222942.jpg
Views: 513
Size:  107.2 KBName:  20180820_223025.jpg
Views: 483
Size:  95.6 KBName:  20180820_223409.jpg
Views: 474
Size:  95.7 KB

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •