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    Old Mag Design Question

    I believe my mag is old. I mean really old. Like pre-stars-on-the-valve old. Anyways, the first game I played with my Superbolt, it was for some reason chopping my paint to **** and back. After playing, I took it apart and noticed my wire nubbin had been smashed flat against the body of my barrel, and when I replaced it with a plastic one, there was a big, nasty scar on the barrel where the wire had dug in. Also, the first 2-3 millimeters of the sleeve of my superbolt had been chewed up, with scratches and the like on it. So, I decided to get out my old bolt, and noticed that it was at least 2-3 mm shorter. So my questions are, where, besides the bolt, is there a difference between my mag and some newer ones? The body? The power tube? And also, I have a Z-Body on the way, will using it do anything to my mag if I stick with the old bolt, or would it not push forward far enough, thus not sealing off the breech and sending air up my powerfeed?
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    The power-tube tip is most likely different, and your valve might have a power-tuvbe spring instead of a spacer, and a non-reversable on/off top. There are no updates to the basic valve, merely minor tweaks to the ancillary parts, which will fit your valve as well.

    Note that the Superbolts are long-nose bolts, so they will be longer than older foamy & non-foamy bolts, the length change helped to reduce blow-back, making the vert feed mag a practical exercise for the first time.
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    OK, so all this means that my Z-Body will work ok? Awesome, but I guess I'll hafta wait until I get a retro valve to use lvl 10.

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    nope level 10 will work with your current valve.....

    though you may need to get a new springpack for the back part of the valve... other then that you just need the level 10 update kit....
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    awesome job pimpin up the gun! youll love the retro and the z body! i cant speak for the lvl 10 though cause i havent used one

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    I have an old pre star valve from 1993. The level 10 works fine and is a recommended upgrade.

    Other upgrades include getting a new style on/off top, and making sure the hole in the valve back lines up with the hole in the valve front. If it doesn't, drill a new hole in the back so that it lines up.
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