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    My local store just trashed the E-Mag

    OK, I just got back from my local paintball store and something made me very sad. It all started at last weeks paintball game when I used a black dragun. The accuracy was horrible and the gun chopped like nothing else. But the triggerpull was mouseclick. So easy to rip on.

    Now lets look back at my mag. Intelliframe. LX. Classic 68 Valve. No modifications done to sear, on/off et cetera. I can pull a good 6 bps, and 7 on a great day. I play front and have honestly felt limited by my marker. I don't need to spray paint all around the field, but the electo just makes my game so much better.

    Now, I am definatly a mag guy so I figure emag sounds like a sweet gun. I go to the proshop and ask to try the emag out. The trigger is very cool and unique - i LOVE the magnets. But the pull is very long. oh yeah, its also heavy. 900 bucks. did i mention the pull was long?

    Now lets try the IR3's trigger. I've heard great things about this gun: Mushy, long.

    What about the Dye Angel: Mouseclick.

    Now I really need to be corrected here. Tell me that the trigger is amazing. 0.3 mm? Thats the shortest I've heard. The store owner pretty much trashed the emag though. I'd really like it though?

    Is it a good electro though? Should I just go with an Impulse? I have about 650 ready to burn.



    Thanks in advance to the unbiased crew of AO!

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    well once you set up the emag pull I have mine very short. Stock angel triggers wernt good a lot of side to side play but there are ways to fix that

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    hi

    Well I highly suggest hte E-mag

    1. The Store probably didnt even adjust the trigger
    2. I can get it 0.1mm..
    3. Best Marker ever desighned and best upgrades

    Simple enough


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    You can get it down to .1mm? How did you even measure that? Anyway, the store liked the impulse (I went with REO) and for the money...less than half the price of an emag, I can't see why not.

    Put an LPR on that thing and you've got yourself a level ten and no FSDO. Stock barrel is great on it, and the trigger is better stock in my opinion (3mm about on impulse, like 2cm on the emag), and much easier to upgrade (cheap blade or trigger job will make it great). Also, 150psi operating pressure, no recoil, silent....sounds good.

    Well, I don't agree with the above completely but I want someone to put up an argument against it. Why is the emag 600 dollars better? Real answers, too...not just "I like it 'cause I have it."

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    about the angel triggers. DYE doesnt do ne modifications to the trigger i believe so all angel triggers can be set that way. The ir3 trigger feels mushy because there is no microswitch to click on. Instead it has the opti-switch system. The ir3 trigger can also be set just as short as any lcd angel
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    with the opti even shorter, the trigger is manipulateable(new word for ya kids
    0 so its set that way at th eshop but when you get home set it teh way you want jeez

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    Ok. Now how about this? New Nasty Impulse - or USED Emag?

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    What state/city do you live in? I really hope your dealer isnt too far from me

    Ask your dealer for specific reasons as to why he does not like the Emag. I doubt he messed with the trigger on the Emag, the trigger is what you make of it, very light or very tough, completely the preference of the owner. I've never seen any trigger lighter than Capo's Emag(at IAO someone blew on the trigger and it fired twice). Don't forget, with an Emag you get a marker than can fire if electronics go down. With level 10, a marker that is capable of firing faster, more consistent, yet softer on paint, than ANY other marker on the market.

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    A nasty Impulse is just that, NASTY. All that it is is a regular Impulse with some cool milling and annodizing. It has little performance-wise over the regular Impulse. I was reading in PB2X that MSRP = 625-1000, and the only difference is milling and annoing. That should tell you something. Also, the emag is vert feed OR warp, and the Impulse won't make a great warped gun. Plus, I will NEVER trust an SP gun. I would take a used emag over an Impulse in a second. No thoughts will enter my mind. The emag can be run if the electronics go kaput with the flip of a switch. The Impulse? No offense to impy owners, but I'd be happy if it ran PERIOD. Sure, the Impulse my bro, Snakebite78 owned, was older, but his emag is 1071, and it's fine. The emag came out, and works great. The Impy came out, and the older ones STUNK.

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    I've never seen any trigger lighter than Capo's Emag(at IAO someone blew on the trigger and it fired twice)
    teehee!
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    hmm, ok first of you said your a mag guy right? thats one reason to get the e-mag.

    2nd reason, say you dont like the grove trigger? want to adjust it down to hella short? then you can get the timmy 63 blade trigger for 30 bux. best money i ever spent, better than the lx

    3rd reason. Lx is superior to a stupid eye. Lx can be set to not crumple a dollar bill (yes, but it wont push the ball into the breach) well, try sticking your tounge in an impy cover the eye, and see if you have a nice new .700 hole in your tounge. the bolt speed is still higher on impys, even with an eye, the bolt can cause a break.

    fastest recharging on the market...dont need to ad any thing to that

    Hybrid mode, that right there is the reason to buy in its self.


    WHat about the stupid yellow key? what about when the little switch on your impy breaks off? also, the key isnt that bad.

    you even said you liked the magnets, there hella nice. also, you didnt have it im M mode did you?

    no stickies you argue? get your self some load sm5 grpis, i did and there really comefy.

    Heavy you say? not really, it isnt that bad, plus its shorter than an impy, even the vert feed is shorter than an impy.

    Great customer service, what if your impy goes down? whose guna tech it? the store guy who cant even adjust a trigger? i dont think so.

    This is also argueable with the angel, you guys are lucky to have Bob Sandifier, i wish he would do e-mags just so i could give him my business

    hmm i dunno what else to say really. this is completely unbiased,i own an e-mag yes, but if i felt another marker was better, i would tell you



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    Hyper frame

    Go out and get yourself a hyperframe and a ReTro valve.

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    i myself use to be a mag guy, and with LX now im very proud of what agd has done. A teammate of mine has a stock mag, it think a intelli-blade frame, retro valve, lx, and hyperflow tank. I think he has a freak as well, and an old school autoresponse sear. And its so fun to shoot, we whip it out every once in the blue moon and amaze the uneducated. Im surprise im starting to see some mags with lx now at the feild.

    But after shooting an angel and a cocker. I was just like.. ok mags are good but these are wAy better (my preference anyway)

    I like the cocker very much and my team is sponsored by wgp now so we are forced to shoot cockers and i like them alot. (btw my angel is for sale or trade )

    I use to be the cocker elve this hahaha cockers arent all that much different that mags accuracy wise etc etc. But they are, just how consistent they are and since they are closed bolt there is less fluctuation with the pressure as well as how theres less than -1 kick .

    I also like the angel alot, but who needs two guns

    To me if i was going to get a new gun exploring the marker path once again, i would get a nice cocker as main, lcd as backup, and mag for good ol times.

    I understand how mags have these anti-chopping capabilites now but i cant make the switch back cause, its just the way they shoot how i dont like. Its different alot different from an angel and a cocker. And my game seems alot better shooting one of them.

    I would go with the impy if i were you, i saw a nice blue to silver fade vision imp with all these other imp mods. Like a voodoo something bolt and lpr thinger with a rock. He has an iframe and freak. All the best stuff i think. It rocks real nice. I like it alot, it would be another fun gun to add to my list.

    i myself would go for a cocker if i was exploring again, then the imp, the emag last. Although they have the capabilites to be good the money is alot more compaired to others and i believe its custom work as well. i heard LX was a pain in the *** to get tuned right.. not installed but working great. Those emagnum boards run for like a 400 dollars. And i think thats there only performance parst of know of.

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    hmmm, lx isnt that hard, and the e-magnum is 225 installed, 200 do it yourself.

    Dont get me started on the cocker thing, mags are incredibly consistent, if you remember to oil em. I shot 276 276 275 276 last time i chronoed

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    i myself use to be a mag guy, and with LX now im very proud of what agd has done. A teammate of mine has a stock mag, it think a intelli-blade frame, retro valve, lx, and hyperflow tank. I think he has a freak as well, and an old school autoresponse sear. And its so fun to shoot, we whip it out every once in the blue moon and amaze the uneducated. Im surprise im starting to see some mags with lx now at the feild.

    But after shooting an angel and a cocker. I was just like.. ok mags are good but these are wAy better (my preference anyway)

    I like the cocker very much and my team is sponsored by wgp now so we are forced to shoot cockers and i like them alot. (btw my angel is for sale or trade )

    I use to be the cocker elve this hahaha cockers arent all that much different that mags accuracy wise etc etc. But they are, just how consistent they are and since they are closed bolt there is less fluctuation with the pressure as well as how theres less than -1 kick .

    I also like the angel alot, but who needs two guns

    To me if i was going to get a new gun exploring the marker path once again, i would get a nice cocker as main, lcd as backup, and mag for good ol times.

    I understand how mags have these anti-chopping capabilites now but i cant make the switch back cause, its just the way they shoot how i dont like. Its different alot different from an angel and a cocker. And my game seems alot better shooting one of them.

    I would go with the impy if i were you, i saw a nice blue to silver fade vision imp with all these other imp mods. Like a voodoo something bolt and lpr thinger with a rock. He has an iframe and freak. All the best stuff i think. It rocks real nice. I like it alot, it would be another fun gun to add to my list.

    i myself would go for a cocker if i was exploring again, then the imp, the emag last. Although they have the capabilites to be good the money is alot more compaired to others and i believe its custom work as well. i heard LX was a pain in the *** to get tuned right.. not installed but working great. Those emagnum boards run for like a 400 dollars. And i think thats there only performance parst of know of.
    um, no

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    magman dont get me started on the cocker thing.

    Magman i swear to god, jesus, every single presidents grave, that i use to swear by the accuracy thing ok.

    I use to believe everything you believed until i shot a cocker. Dont get me wrong this has nothing to do with WGP sponsorship. I can give a crap what they think of what i think about there guns (even though i like them)

    But man they shoot alot different. I just shoot cockers, know how to install parts, and time the gun. I dont know all the loops and holes about it. Im going to get my friend matt over here later and he can type up the real reason why a cocker does have that little accuracy atvantage. And dont get me wrong i so so so follow the paint to bore match, FPS, consistency, kick, and all the other aspects that make a gun accurate etc. But my friend just explains why and so much into detail that you cant even argue about it when he finishes cause hes right.

    Just wait a half hour k?

    and the LX was yet again from personal experience the guy joe who had the mag was the person who told me about his trouble. The emagnum board is 200 now or something but i remember it being 300 or 400 so dollars and i was like damn thats expensive...
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    ahhh how so obvious would i know this would become a flame fest on mags.org considering half of it was true... i bet you half of you skimmed through it and looked just at the bad parts of what i said. None of the good... and also are going to swear by the accuracy thing. Let me add that i also think a angel isnt as accurate as a cocker even with all the right things.

    I did one of those tests before...

    same tank same output.. same fps... freak kit, same paint, same bore size. And yes the cocker did win ... not by a long shot... dont get me wrong it wasnt a huge difference but the fact of the matter is that there was a difference.

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    I'm waiting for your friend so we can have some fun.

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    me to TRIAD me too .. he at work he will be home soon

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    you have obviously not owned a impulse....

    Originally posted by TRIAD
    A nasty Impulse is just that, NASTY. All that it is is a regular Impulse with some cool milling and annodizing. It has little performance-wise over the regular Impulse. I was reading in PB2X that MSRP = 625-1000, and the only difference is milling and annoing. That should tell you something. Also, the emag is vert feed OR warp, and the Impulse won't make a great warped gun. Plus, I will NEVER trust an SP gun. I would take a used emag over an Impulse in a second. No thoughts will enter my mind. The emag can be run if the electronics go kaput with the flip of a switch. The Impulse? No offense to impy owners, but I'd be happy if it ran PERIOD. Sure, the Impulse my bro, Snakebite78 owned, was older, but his emag is 1071, and it's fine. The emag came out, and works great. The Impy came out, and the older ones STUNK.

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    uh.....well......do you know anything about the Nasty imp?!?!? sorry i'm not trying to flame you but PLEASE try and look at what the nasty has on it...it includes:
    -Delrin Voodoo Bolt -
    -SP Gel Grips -
    -TapeWorm -
    -Titanium Bolt Pin -
    -Your choice: Magnetic Trigger or Blade Trigger -
    -Freak Barrel (Aluminum Back, Matching Tip, One Insert (your choice of size)

    All of this came from www.paintballwholesalers.com the comapny that offers the Nasty Imp....please do your homework before you diss a product...maybe your brother had trouble with his imp....did he take care of it right? if he had problems did he try to get them fixed or just whine about it till he bought a emag?

    seriously. i have owned my impulse for about 5 months and have had absolutely NO problems with it whatsoever! and i know many other people that own imps and love them to death...the earlier imps had a few solenoid problems but the newer versions have been changed to correct the solenoid problems.....$625 includes everything i included above, but if you wanted to spend 1000 you could get all of the above AND:
    Vision
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    Two color fade or vertical reg.

    and as for your comment about how they dont make good warp guns....werm makes a warp feed neck for the impulse that you could simply screw in, attatch your warp and rock with.... www.imperialpaintball.com

    plus i think the nasty has some great milling, but if it doesnt suit your tastes he could always try the rat impulse from www.e-paintballoutlet.com which is my personal favorite impulse because not only do you have tons of options to get, you also get a lifetime warrante....i know i know you get that with a mag, but the rat doesnt have stars...it never runs out....

    also the LPR will eliminate chops by allowing you to bounce the bolt off of a ball, but it will also creat horrible gas efficiency....the LPR mod for the imp was made as a solenoid optimizer, efficiency increaser (if you have it set right), and it also makes the marker much more quiet.....if you are looking for something to eliminate chopping you should get the vision system...i've never needed it for my imp and i can outshoot my 12v easily

    TRIAD please do a little research before you flame a product that it APPEARS that you dont know much about (aside from your brother owning one)

    My Impulse works great PERIOD

    (this post was not intended to flame anyone or any product..i was just defending the impulse, i don't intend to offend anyone)
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    Thanks Arkfear, for those unrelated posts. I asked about the E-Mag. Your arguement had no background - except for a poor install of LX. I'm not new to mags. I have LX, I love it, and yes, it was simple to set up.


    Thank you all so much for your responses.

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    you probably didnt read my first post when i did help you.

    oh well.... i can never help anyone here on automags.org.

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    Oh please Arkfear don't even get me started. How dumb do you think I am? I open up a thread to ask a very specific question. Do not assume I have not done my research. Though your post may have helped someone else, it wasn't relevent to my post at all.

    DO NOT ACCUSE ME OF SKIMMING RELEVENT MATERIAL.

    I posted this thread.

    I intend to get answers.

    In order to get other's opinions, I have to read through EVERY POST. This is MY thread; my research; my needs; and my $650.

    I think cockers are great guns, however, I stated that I was interested in electronic triggers.


    If you think that you can't help anyone on AO, that may be true. It could be you who isn't reading posts.

    I am offended that accuse me of ignoring, skimming, or disregarding your post.

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    I am also offended. I am offended that you, a new member to our family, come here and put us down. Where do you get off? AO is one of the largest, and yet, most diverse communities on the internet.

    FYI i owned a cocker before, it was nice, but im a mag guy, you are an insult to mag guys. You dont know your facts. Tell us how the cocker is more accurate, but open a new thread about it, show the world, not the few in this thread.

    Also, FYI no marker is more accuarate. Its physics, unless you are WAS and truely believe you can defy physics, then ok, we will just laugh and taunt you some more.

    We dont want you to leve AO, JUST shape up. You started off on a bad note, change to a good one.


    ALSO FYI my cocker was not more accurate than my e-mag, or the rt pro before it, or the classic, or the spyder for that matter

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    Originally posted by *ArKfEaR*
    you probably didnt read my first post when i did help you.

    oh well.... i can never help anyone here on automags.org.
    Glad you can finally admit it.

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    let's all be nice now...

    I have a better solution:

    If you don't want to spend tons of money then you can get a paintball blow-gun!! They are long... camoflaged... impractical... and almost completely inaffective!!! But if you want to impress people with your awesome blowing skillz, get a blowgun!

    I have no clue why i just wrote all that $ }{ I '][' but at least it may get u fools off the damn cockers vs mags vs angels topic which is really annoying! IF YOU CAN"T DECIDE GO GET A BLOWGUN!


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    magman007 - actually i probably shot a mag before you were born. I know alot about mags, the only crap im not use to is the new stuff. And dont be like you obviously know nothing about mags and were never a mag owner cause then you wouldnt of said the cocker thing with accuracy. Well your wrong bud, cause, my first gun was a mag. I had it for a long while. How am i offending mag people in any way or putting down mag people, im just saying what i have expierienced, whats better hype on the internet or actually shooting/using an object? Ok i never said anything bad about the mags, most the stuff i had said were good about mags, and the rest of the stuff had to do with personal preference. As you for instance you said your a mag person well, im not a mag person, but i do like the mags and have nothing against them. As well as you might with a cocker, or an angel etc.

    And i am going to make a separate thread debating why cockers seem to be more accurate. Just dont i mess up Reo5th's thread. And i dont know why you guys come off all upitty and yelling and such. I friggin said nothing negative towards you personally or towards the mag. Calm down, take a chill pill. How do you think the people feel when threads on automags.org come up... "OMG TODAY I SHOT A GUY WITH AN ANGEL!!!!!!" ( ).

    And btw im not new, i actually was one of the first ao'ers trust me and had like 2,000 posts or so. But then i started working full time and lost time to post on the internet, and i cleared my cookies and forgot my name and password. So im new to the new stuff in the mag world and i would like to be edjucated. But you should hear me out as well... not just turn away and flame like you have been doing already.

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    I have both an RT Pro and Red Vert cocker and both shoot the same just less kick on the cocker. If this means anything to you I am afraid to lend out my mag this Sunday because I am afraid my cocker will break. =) I have already timed it and everyone makes it out harder then it is. But I am still worried something will go wrong with one of the hoses, or parts. My mag had a problem and I slipped in a new o-ring.

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    ty mossman i must say a 200 dark angel with free flow mod would be right up your alley and you wouldnt belive the trigger job ive done pm me, i may help you out

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    Thanks Dansim. If you still have the gun on the 28th, I'd love to try it out then. That really is an amazing price.

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