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    Here are some pics of custom guns we just finished for the Warriors. They are 1/2 lb lighter, intelifed the hopper, displaced battery, on/off switch etc. Don't ask for one they took 4 man days each.

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    *His pic works now*

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    can u explain all this?

    y is the valve outside the body longer now?

    good idea for battery pack if u want it outta the way.

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    Those Would be very nice. I would like to see the blade trigger on one.

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    What's with the Valve???

    Come on Tom you've shown us, we NEED to know. :-)

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    Hey, whats up with the valve? It looks like some crazy new prototype to me. I WANT IT!! 1/2 lb. is a serious difference. Congrats with the mods. Also, I love the battery on the bottom of the grip.

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    Man does that look familiar!


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    <font face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by magc68:
    can u explain all this?

    y is the valve outside the body longer now?

    good idea for battery pack if u want it outta the way.

    [This message has been edited by magc68 (edited 07-19-2001).]
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    because the body is shorter

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    Ok it looks like the air chamber is MUCH larger in that valve, could this be the lower pressure valve Tom snerked about a while back, when he mentioned the projects he has in the works.


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    why aren't they using warp feeds?

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    <font face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by slayer:
    why aren't they using warp feeds?</font>

    Out on a limb here... but a warp would have seriously obscured the changes cause it would be right in the middle of the pics

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    <font face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by slayer:
    why aren't they using warp feeds?</font>
    I'm wondering the same thing!

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    Paul says they are going to be low pressure.

    I think they look just like Jeff's gun only without the cool black powerfeed or rubber front grip.

    AGD should just get over it and have a Jeff series paintball gun. Instead they keep selling us these heavy guns and only people who have ties to machine shops end up with the cool cut down version.

    D.

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    Am I the only person that likes the battery pack as a grip? I think it gives it added stability. I dont think the valve is any longer, it just looks bigger. The current valve doesn't have as big of a circumference. It does in the back on the regulator, but it gets smaller where it goes into the body. There is no body here, so it doesn't step down. I cant tell if it's a low pressure valve. For the air chamber to be a lot bigger would you have to move the on/off valve? Or is the air chamber in front of the valve, I forget, then it would probably be pretty easy. I'll shutup about the valve, I'm losing myself.

    It looks like the back of the grip has been milled down to fit a smaller hand too. Peices of the trigger frame are gone, and chunks off the body rail. Even the emag logo is gone up front. That probably weighs close to nothing.

    It looks cool. I want one. Are there any other, non cosmetic upgrades? Like, can they shoot any faster?


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    That front grip is what keeps me from using my new E-Mag as much as I should. I love AGD but that grip is just goofy. I need to find someone who can mill mine up. I bought it with the intention of getting it to Jeff, bu the doesn't do custom work.

    If Jeff is building them I guarantee they shoot faster! His personal guns rip and even the RT's that he has built smoke.

    Maybe Jax will stop sucking and make the cut just once this year with these!

    D.

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    Jax are in the top 8 in standings- or were last time I checked. They were higher than the All A's, and playing in the pro division in the NPPL is no chump change either...
    Standings according to Paintball 2Xtremes.

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    Warriors have had some change ups in their roster. It is hard to play Pro NPPL level when you don't really know the guy next to you. Give them this year as a learning year, then LOOK OUT!!!! Warriors are some stand up guys. Watched the win the Nashville NPPL last year.

    P.S. Hope Larry V. gets feeling better (Just in case any of the warriors are reading this and want to tell him)

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    I know you said don't ask for one Tom....BUT can I have one?!?!? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE...LoL.

    Could you tell us how you cut the Main Body down like that in order to expose the valve? Is it possible to do that with a standard mag body safely? I guess you would have to cut a cresent to leave the body underneath the valve.

    How about some schematics Tom!?!?!

    Looks really sweet. Who said you can't customize a Mag???

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    If you look at the NPPL standings, the warriors have yet to make the cut this season.

    Hopefully these guns will at least get them all back to using mags.

    Yes, they've had some roster changes - but those have all been Pro players added to their roster! Kevin. Huffy. Chris. All Pros who weren't on the Nashville team.

    D.

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    well Tom, i'kll hand it to ya. you've pumped out yet another killer mod. 1/2 a pound is a major accomplishment. my mag is the lightest gun on our team, and to be able to cut a half a pound from an e-mag certainly took some thinking. great job with the new battery placement. just adds even MORE great setups. keep up the great job guys!



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    i cant really tell but what i can see i dont think the valve isnt any longer than before. jsut that the body is shorter and the od of the valve stay larger for a longer portion of the valve. on the other hand agd would only do this for a persormance reason in my opinion. if u recall the prototype feed pics he blurred out the rear portion of the valve. it may have been this new idea he was trying therfore didnt want us to see. the body rail was also milled in the proto pics as well. the milling was identical to the milling seen on this pic as well. i think it was this valve that they were trying to keep us from seeing. y else would they blur out the valve in the proto pics. the question is what performance increase does this give? since all i can see is the outside it is hard to tell what it actually does. any ideas?



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    Look at the forward seam on the valve, where the powertube screws onto the valve, it looks like the power tube assembly, instead of being a flat end witha tube, also adds about 1cm to the chamber, the rest of the valve looks like it's simply not turned down to fit in the body.

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    thanks mykroft
    i do see that and that is the only diffrnece i see as u mentioned. is this an addition to the chamber or is it something else we dont knwo about?

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    Call me crazy, but I think that Rev. has been modded. Looks like you could have put a warp wheel in it??? I dunno, but what is with the black box on the Rev?

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    For your viewing pleasure
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    Thanks for all of your encouraging words.
    we ar going to test the guns this weekend and will let all of you know how they perform
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    hey I live in florida too, maybe I'll come up sometime and borrow a gun or two *wink* *wink*

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    These guns don't have warp feeds on them because Jacksonville doesn't play with Warp Feeds. In all fairness, PGP sometimes does.

    The only other big names that play with warps are Bob Long, Mark from Aftershock, and Jeff from Farside. That's about it.

    And whoever said Jax was ahead of the All A's in points in the NPPL is wrong. I just checked on warpig. The A's have beaten out Jax in every single event this year. They can't be behind.

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    looks like the valve body just isnt milled down. but umm, what exactly it that thing between the valve and the body?

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