Smart Parts Patent Will Destroy Paintball! - Read!

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Originally posted by Animal Mother


Yeahhhhhh!! And I'll save the twins so they will forver be in debt to me.

heh heh...

Oh no you wont I will shoot u in the knee caps and save em before u can waddle over there. I will let u save the wierd one with the freaky piercings.

[jinxed]

Originally posted by Harbinger[TG]
I love all this crap from a company that wasnt even around for pumps and pistols...WTF they are like a 10yr old company

They made a pump called the "Boss".
Basically, a generic nelson clone.

I think it came out in 1989?

Nick

[robertjuric]

cant we just get around this by coming up w/ a new device(or name) for something that breaks the current? Like a manuall circuit breaker?

or does the patent cover the principle of the switch to?

[DK1]

Originally posted by Mav D MagMan
Sounds more like they were just the first to patent one with an on/off switch. Which screws the guys who were already maken em.

Mav

nah, not really. You can't patent something that's already being made by someone else, or is in the public domain. Just because SP has a patent doesn't mean it's worth anything. It will go to trial, that's where the decision will be made on what SP really owns the rights to.


as for the price of guns going up, Doc is absolutely right unless you just want to be real nitpicky. Price passed onto consumer eventually is decided by price elasticity of demand, but is generally very lopsided (some companies might choose to actually lower their percentage, but it won't be much in comparison). So, for all intents and purposes, you will see all the fees rolled right over into the price. IE, if SP wins, most companies will go out of business because no one will pay $3000 for their stuff.

Guess what happens then? Do you think SP will charge more or less when no one else is allowed to compete with them? Yup, just because they can sell their gun for $600 and still make money doesn't mean they won't jack it to $1000 when everyone else is gone. They won't do it with the same model, but when the new and improved comes out, you can bet your butt it'll come with a nice shiney new price tag to go with it. SO, this suit will then apply not only to those who hate SP, but also those who buy their products.

Welcome to the market where you have a producer with no competitors.

DK1

[Johnny_Reb]

If you ask me SP is sending a serious message to the players"DONT MESS WITH SP!" Now if SP could do this to other companies this could psyche out alot of players. Ppl wont feel safe buying non SP electros, thusly resulting in increased gun sales for SP.

[phatpat47]

yep squid thats pretty much it...
hes going to leave my thread open though. Discussion over there might actoually be a little more impactfull if thats a word.

http://www.impulseownersgroup.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22357

[No sKiLLz]

Originally posted by Johnny_Reb
True No skillz but Shockers were the first to really catch on, and as most ppl see it they invented the first electro.

Catch on? Is that like "Since Coke sells more than Pepsi every year it gives them the right to aquire patents on soft drinks?"

Last time I checked, Angels were the first electro to "flood" the scene.

[Johnny_Reb]

or does the patent cover the principle of the switch to?

Lol didnt you hear robert SP patented electricty

[Johnny_Reb]

Last time I checked, Angels were the first electro to "flood" the scene.

Um No. Angels had a huge impact on the electro scene but Shockers had alrdy made a giant impact before them man.

[Harbinger[TG]]

Originally posted by jinxed


They made a pump called the "Boss".
Basically, a generic nelson clone.

I think it came out in 1989?

Nick

Really, i didnt know that. I remember the old nelspot days...good times...I dont remember nelson trying to sue everyone back then, but i was a kid

[phatpat47]

well i have school toomorow, but good luck with the fight. If I were a laywer id try to help you out.

[WickedAirSportz]

Well if you guys remember SP has been pushing for this for a long time. But look at it from their point of view: They invent the electro gun only to have others copy and make millions of dollars. You make the first switicable bore barrel only to have others copy it.

The problem here is that Smart Parts did not invent either of these. Do a patent search yourself and you will see what we mean!

[TransMan]

One more thing the rest of the Paintball companies can use against SP is Advertising. Think of where just about all teh paintball advertising is... thats right Magazines now when flipping through them what do u see mostly BE and Kingman with WDP WGP and AGD in there too. Now lets say that all the paintball companies got together and said hey every painball mag out there we are not going to buy advertising if u allow SP to advertise as well. What are the mags gonna do lose most of there money or cut SP out and lose a very minimal amout compared to that of losing everyone else. Im sure SP doesnt have the mney to buy up all the advertising of Kingman, Tippmann, BE, AGD, WDP, WGP, AGD, and all of the other....

I think this is very serious but there is just too much going again SP for this to get much further as long as we and everyone in the world of paintball stand up agains them.

[Harbinger[TG]]

Originally posted by WickedAirSportz


The problem here is that Smart Parts did not invent either of these. Do a patent search yourself and you will see what we mean!

Then how the hell has it come this far?... Your way more conected to the industry than we are; thank you for all the knowledgeble posts and info. We really appreciate it. That goes for everyone helping the cause.

Kevin