How To Put An Ego Frame On A Mag

[p8ntbal4me]

this seems to be the place to ask, so...
i wish to make the happiness that is the egomag, but, i have my eyes on a certain frame. do any of you know or think that the E-Tek STARS frame will be a good choice? it states that it is compatible with all ego versions, so the re-drilling of the attachment holes should be the only thing to do, right? also, it dosent look to have anything pneumatic going on, is it fully electronic?? and it seems i am going to be needing a new noid, which are the best choices and WTB??
any answer would be nice, thank you.

You have to get away from the part in which your worried about the Etek frame working on an Ego.

The Ego frame doesnt work on a Mag period. So what guys have done is modified it to work.
Ive seen Ego, E1/E2, Ion, and other frames used for this conversion. Anything is possible.

Your not going to be using the solenoid from the Ego as it is, so as long as you can get access to a few tools and take some time to read the guides outlines on the AO,... you should be all set to use your Etek frame.

~ P8nt

[RiotKing]

You have to get away from the part in which your worried about the Etek frame working on an Ego.

The Ego frame doesnt work on a Mag period. So what guys have done is modified it to work.
Ive seen Ego, E1/E2, Ion, and other frames used for this conversion. Anything is possible.

Your not going to be using the solenoid from the Ego as it is, so as long as you can get access to a few tools and take some time to read the guides outlines on the AO,... you should be all set to use your Etek frame.

~ P8nt

right now i use a hyperframe. the ego grips feel better and have more interchangable parts. so ill be using one of those. as for a solenoid, can i just steal the one out of my hyperframe and call it good? or do i need an armature with more length? dont worry about me getting my hands on any kind of tool. ive got that department covered. i can get ahold of anything from the tool needed to remove the caps on the cable box outside your apartment to a backhoe... must i use a pneumatic solenoid? or will an electric one like the one in my hyperframe suffice?

[Toll]

measurement question: Approximately how far is the center of the first hole from the front of the ego frame in your modification? My worry is about my MPA3 not hitting the seer leg correctly and having to take some meat out of the frame

[MagModderMatt]

What model ram/solenoid is that??

I have been lookin around, have an original RT with the banjo bolt, cant put a ULT in it.
The 8mm ram, and the fact you are using it efectivly to trip the RT on/off the ram brand and model, same question for the noid you use?
would be great to have that info. I want to EP my rt mag and need that ram with 8mm diam to trip my sear. Your help would be great to have, I'm stuck on what to use that has enough psi/force to trip that sear with my rt on/off
:)
Thanks,
Matt

I was just lookng at your ram you used.

Looks ALMOST like mine. Mine is a bit longer and slightly deeper but drops into the I-frame with no milling required. Whats the width of that EGO frame internally?

My bore is larger too,... Im using an 8mm bore. I was going to try the 6mm & 4mm bore but between gas usage and the stoke to strike force on the sear using an R/T on-off.... 8mm as the way to go.

[p8ntbal4me]

I have been lookin around, have an original RT with the banjo bolt, cant put a ULT in it.
The 8mm ram, and the fact you are using it efectivly to trip the RT on/off the ram brand and model, same question for the noid you use?
would be great to have that info. I want to EP my rt mag and need that ram with 8mm diam to trip my sear. Your help would be great to have, I'm stuck on what to use that has enough psi/force to trip that sear with my rt on/off
:)
Thanks,
Matt

Honestly,.. the key to the triggering of the standard on/off assembly is the psi max on your solenoid and a quality ram. I will say that from my findings,.. the MPA-3 is what works very simply. The one that I have made is touchy,.. and requires ALOT of measuring, layout, design,.. and pacients. If you do not calculate the psi output from the solenoid to the distance of most efficiency on the stroke of the ram,... it wont cycle like you would want it to.

I hacked almost 12 frames now from AGD, WDP, WGP,.. you name it. I have pretty much got my parts down to a simple template to work with.

~ P8nt

[MagModderMatt]

thx, thats very helpfull

Honestly,.. the key to the triggering of the standard on/off assembly is the psi max on your solenoid and a quality ram. I will say that from my findings,.. the MPA-3 is what works very simply. The one that I have made is touchy,.. and requires ALOT of measuring, layout, design,.. and pacients. If you do not calculate the psi output from the solenoid to the distance of most efficiency on the stroke of the ram,... it wont cycle like you would want it to.

I hacked almost 12 frames now from AGD, WDP, WGP,.. you name it. I have pretty much got my parts down to a simple template to work with.

~ P8nt

I myself have hacked a few frames. AGD, benchmark,Intelli, two spyder esp grips, I have found that the cheapest and almost pre built for the mod is the spyder esp or dragun.
The ram stuff is perfect, I got the info from you that I needed and the mpa-3 is cheap, reliable and can hold 250 psi + cycles prettymuch as fast as you want (the mag on/off resets the ram super fast) I have however gotten tunaman to do the ULT milling for me.
Thanks tuna! so if I choose to go with a ULT I can with this valve, I would rather try to go with my RT on off because it recharges/resets the sear & ram faster, and with mpa-3 runnin about 220psi I think it will trip the rt on/off with no prob. I gotta ask though, I have the room for a larget solenoid, I was lookin at This one, or it's brother What do you think will put out like 220psi to the mpa-3 not leak & last a while. I want one that will last and shoot fast I kinda plan on selling kits to people if all goes will with my own

It would have the mpa-3 that noid, UTB board and (no lables just blacl)This Grip (it has a place for the noid to just drop in with minnimal It could even be just an all electric (like devil mag) with the verC T board for spyder's and use just the E-noid for people with ULT, they wouldnt need any LPR and would be even more of a sleeper.

Please let me know bout the noid psi, and any ideas. You have been a great help
and your egomag deservs five
5 out of 5 !!!

[gamer565]

has anyone thought of using a timmy frame....im currently looking for a mag to and the parts to start one, i was just wondering if its been done before.


heres a ideal of wat im doing



ill use a MPA-3 Actuator instead of the autococker ram that i have in the pic

[sandfreestyle]

has anyone thought of using a timmy frame....im currently looking for a mag to and the parts to start one, i was just wondering if its been done before.


heres a ideal of wat im doing



ill use a MPA-3 Actuator instead of the autococker ram that i have in the pic

I think i was the first one to do it. Sold it to Sk8ter.

[questionful]

gamer565, in theory you can get any electropneumatic gun's frame and put it on a mag. As long as you can hook up a ram to hit the sear, you can make it work.

[gamer565]

gamer565, in theory you can get any electropneumatic gun's frame and put it on a mag. As long as you can hook up a ram to hit the sear, you can make it work.

doesnt the rail hold the sear?


im still learning about mags, so correct me if im off.



sandfreestyle- i just seen ur thread bout it...and its exactly how i was imaging mine...do u have any pics inside the frame?

[sandfreestyle]

doesnt the rail hold the sear?


im still learning about mags, so correct me if im off.

yes it does

[gamer565]

ok...so as long as i have a rail and basically copy urs ill be set..

[sandfreestyle]

ok...so as long as i have a rail and basically copy urs ill be set..

i have a little advice since i have done the timmy frame and ego frame. The ego frame is way easier than the timmy frame. the timmy frame has a whole lot more modification to get it to work properly.

the ego frame will work on a classic rail as well with a minor moddification.

[gamer565]

i have a little advice since i have done the timmy frame and ego frame. The ego frame is way easier than the timmy frame. the timmy frame has a whole lot more modification to get it to work properly.

the ego frame will work on a classic rail as well with a minor moddification.

alright thnx...ill look into some ego frames then.


ive held/shot my friends 07ego....but the trigger area seemed kind of small...are all ego frames these way?

[sandfreestyle]

alright thnx...ill look into some ego frames then.


ive held/shot my friends 07ego....but the trigger area seemed kind of small...are all ego frames these way?

The 05-06 frames are the best cause they have a flat surface on the top so it sit flush with the rail. The 07 and up frames are kinda curved, they are also I think a little narrower. The stock Etek frames are, I think, all good. I'm not sure about the new Etek star frames.