any chance of new mags from AGD anytime?

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  • dodge3500
    aka rockytop
    • Mar 2012
    • 431

    #1

    any chance of new mags from AGD anytime?

    With empire doing the sniper and now the autococker plus lapco bringing out twisters again,what are the chances of AGD and a new mag?i love mechanicals especially automags and would love to see AGD cranking out some new stuff too.:)
  • OPBN
    OldPBNoob

    • Sep 2008
    • 5240

    #2
    Chances are quite low.

    What sort of changes are you wanting?
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    • RT Lover
      nothing special
      • Nov 2011
      • 789

      #3
      twister?
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      • El Zilcho
        Registered User
        • Jul 2007
        • 483

        #4
        Do they even have a design department?
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        • skipdogg
          OG & HNIC
          • Nov 2000
          • 1392

          #5
          0.00% chance
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          • KurtPB
            iLurk
            • Mar 2011
            • 130

            #6
            Originally posted by OPBN
            Chances are quite low.

            What sort of changes are you wanting?
            These days if someone ordered from the factory a foregrip on the rail, clamping feedneck and if not an on/off asa than a decent standard one. Also, this is 2013, the days of sight rails and whatnot are gone, have factory hole-less rails and get rid of the extra.

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            • Arstron
              fusionowners.org

              • Mar 2005
              • 2347

              #7
              Originally posted by OPBN
              Chances are quite low.

              What sort of changes are you wanting?
              A first strike round capable, magazine fed, zgrip that can shoot freakin laser beams.

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              • OPBN
                OldPBNoob

                • Sep 2008
                • 5240

                #8
                Originally posted by KurtPB
                These days if someone ordered from the factory a foregrip on the rail, clamping feedneck and if not an on/off asa than a decent standard one. Also, this is 2013, the days of sight rails and whatnot are gone, have factory hole-less rails and get rid of the extra.
                Foregrips do come directly on the rails these days. They do not utilize clamping feednecks because they realize this is a personal preference thing that a lot of people swap out regardless. It just raises the price. Same with on/off ASAs. Current models also do not come with site rails and the rails are in fact holeless excepting for the one for the sear axle.

                So I guess they already produce your dream Mag other than wanting feedneck and ASA options?

                This is what a current RT Pro come from the factory looking like*:

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                * I have heard that they no longer offer the bike style grip, but instead use a foam grip. And I think the grips are different possibly as well.
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                • KurtPB
                  iLurk
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 130

                  #9
                  Originally posted by OPBN
                  Foregrips do come directly on the rails these days. They do not utilize clamping feednecks because they realize this is a personal preference thing that a lot of people swap out regardless. It just raises the price. Same with on/off ASAs. Current models also do not come with site rails and the rails are in fact holeless excepting for the one for the sear axle.

                  So I guess they already produce your dream Mag other than wanting feedneck and ASA options?

                  This is what a current RT Pro come from the factory looking like*:

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                  * I have heard that they no longer offer the bike style grip, but instead use a foam grip. And I think the grips are different possibly as well.
                  Guess I haven't looked at AGD's website in years for anything I want but not my dream mag by any means, no. Just stating what people expect from a marker in that price range these days.

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                  • dodge3500
                    aka rockytop
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 431

                    #10
                    Bring out different milled rails and body's with updated feed necks and detents.bring back y frames and matching annoed x-valves,they don't have to create a totally new marker but rather update a few things.there is a large crowd of younger folks that don't even know what a automag is.(make what is old new again)I guess I'm just being too hopeful. :-) :-)

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                    • Bunny
                      AO Archivist

                      • Mar 2002
                      • 3459

                      #11
                      There is really no reason for AGD to make anymore mags. I think it actually has helped the marketplace for used mags to be completely stable compared to other manufacturers out there.

                      Btw, we have a few really talented people working on new parts for Automags to this day. Sure its not AGD, but some of the parts are just as good.

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                      • OPBN
                        OldPBNoob

                        • Sep 2008
                        • 5240

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dodge3500
                        Bring out different milled rails and body's with updated feed necks and detents.bring back y frames and matching annoed x-valves,they don't have to create a totally new marker but rather update a few things.there is a large crowd of younger folks that don't even know what a automag is.(make what is old new again)I guess I'm just being too hopeful. :-) :-)
                        IIRC, it took them YEARS to finally get rid of the Y frames because they sold so poorly. There are several companies offering bodies, rails and frames already which is something that is usually handled by the aftermarket. Do Dye or Kee offer body kits or custom frames for their markers?

                        One area that I would strongly agree that updates could be done is in regards to colors. But then you get into what colors sell, which don't? And if you start anodizing the valves, you have to have matching bodies and what happens if people start ordering clown markers with red valves, purple bodies and green frames? So I get that aspect of it because if you make everything black, it all matches. And lets be honest, Mag are probably used more so in woodsball games than tourney, so black is probably a better choice for most.

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                        • KurtPB
                          iLurk
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 130

                          #13
                          CCM seem to do a pretty good job with their special colors. :) This is a topic that has been beat to death, revived, and then beat to death again and again. All I have to say is that those updates are what newer buyers expect a gun at that price to have these days. I don't even expect AGD to ever get back to where they were when they had their name on the airball bunkers and whatnot, that ship has sailed. I'd just like to see them operate at a level like CCM where they do some updating along the way, offer the options(colors and parts, even if they have to be ordered and paid for before-hand) and reach out to the community.

                          Not to mention, true CCM markers have great resale.
                          Last edited by KurtPB; 03-14-2013, 10:44 AM.

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                          • OPBN
                            OldPBNoob

                            • Sep 2008
                            • 5240

                            #14
                            I totally agree that I would love to see some custom anodizing combos available, but I can also understand the flip side of the coin from a practical business standpoint as well. With most of the colored valves probably starting to show their age, I would love to see a run of Red, Blue, Purple and maybe some Green done as well. Ooo maybe Orange. I think offering these colors and maybe making it public knowledge of who can match the ano colors or giving the dye color number(not sure if this is how it works) so that people could do their own color matching would be awesome. Don't see it happening, but it would be pretty sweet.

                            Originally posted by KurtPB
                            Not to mention, true CCM markers have great resale.
                            So do Mags....
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                            • KurtPB
                              iLurk
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 130

                              #15
                              I don't know too much about anodizing but I always thought matching a batch of parts had partly to do with who was actually anodizing the work?

                              And yeah, I know 'mags hold their value. Not sure if you understood what I was getting at. That they're still able to be relevant on the market, produce new products and yet their older stuff still holds a premium price.
                              Last edited by KurtPB; 03-14-2013, 11:04 AM.

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