Smart Parts Patent Will Destroy Paintball! - Read!

[cdawg]

I don't think the mods on AO can make this a sticky because it might be construed as the official opinion of Air Gun Designs.

[snoogans]

AND PIE REVOLUTION!!!!

*Warning: Your sig is too big* -Miscue

[july_favre]

Hey jim, since you are very well knowed about this area, can you give us some insight about what to expect from this and SP might have or not have to win theyre cases? Alot of us are pretty confident that there is a bunch of prior art that wouldnt allow them to win but we know very little about how those things work.
Perhaps you could even tell us what each side is likely to argue?

[Automaggin2]

Smart Parts knows they are in a deep hole. They are probably sitting down with there lawyers as we speak.

I still support Smart Parts products. They are using strategies many businesses use, you just may not know it. TimeWarner, Microsoft, ClearChannel Entertainment, several food companies, all do the samething Smart Parts does.


The only barrel i have used for 5 years was the All American, and a week ago I switched over to a freak, and no complaints. I still want a 2003 Shocker, and I MAY buy one.



I dont think Smart PArts will enforce this patent, they know they dug themselves into a deep whole and court costs alone to battle this will be beyond the amount of money they will make off enforcing this patent.

[TJ03A]

shartley

You've got some good points about patent rights and all but you seem to have missed the point that while the players don't have the right to argue with the patent itself we do have the right to discuss our opinions. We also have the right to not buy anything related to smart parts. These discussions are going to help some people make the decision on whether or not they're going to give smart parts any money. Considering how fast this seems to be taking off on several different forums it looks like smart parts made a serious mistake because there is a large number of people ready to not only never buy any product that sends money to smart parts but they're also willing to tell everyone they encounter to do the same.

Personally I think I'll follow Doc Nickels example. Although if the supposed 1 million fee + $75 per marker goes through I will do as much as I can to further the boycott and awareness of this issue.

[maglover52]

dude thats sooo gay of smart parts i used to like impulses now i would never buy one smart parts can go *POOF*

*Warning: Knock it off. Your sig is too big as well.* -Miscue

[snoogans]

The freak is cool

*Warning: Sig too big.* -Miscue

[maglover52]

who likes the new addition to my sig?

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[SpongeBobSquarePants]

Well that was 12 LONG pages. After reading everything and considering both sides of the issue. Here is my opinon on the issue. SMART PARTS SUCKS! I used to love those guys, I mean sure there customer service was terrible but I loved my imp. I see these guys becomeing the next brass eagle. The company everyone loves to hate. Because in the words of shartley the are running there business like a business. Thats not what the players want. The players want a company who cares.

Also while looking at there latest patent, it looks like that the electro was patented by ZAP. Then SP bought it as of Feb. 18, 2003.

I think that this lawsuit has been known to the manufactures for a while. (IE. The ULE TRIGGER)
However, it is just now going public. Tom I wish you the best.

As for smart parts I have took it upon myself to call and harass the lady who answers the phone 3 times today. And you know what she tells me? We will have a offical response on our website in 2 weeks.


Also, if anyone here is a hacker please PM me. I have a little idea for all your brainy people

[ZyperioN]

Ok i got an idea, AGD should patent the compressed air tank for paintball, but only enforce the patent on smart parts max-flo's. Let all the other maunfacturers continue on as normal, then we'll see who get screwed over in the end.

Did i hear someone call for a hacker? What exactly would you like to have done?

[magnj]

Yea, I could make some pretty bad things happen to the SP site.

[Johnny_Reb]

Jeez, Cmon guys. Hack their site? Nah show some maturity. And take all of this Nazi crap out of your sigs, that stuff isnt needed. If you have a problem with them call and report it, dont hack their site

[jinxed]

I have an idea that will solve everyones problems-

Let ICD, AKA, BL, WDP, WGP, etc sell electros as "kits".

Think about it- Most electros are just basic stacked-tube sheridans with "off the shelf" parts added. The standard sheridan design is NOT patented.
Electropneumatic components are NOT patented.
SO, if sold "unassembled" then they are not violating patents.

For example. Most know that the Timmy was originally an upgraded Spyder.
So, for Bob Long to get around Smart Parts monopoly:
He could SELL a Millenium Spyder, and throw in some "off the self" parts, like a Clippard Ram, Clippard LPR, Mac valve, and a simple controller (WAS, MORLOCK, or even a simple Bill Mills homemade one).

Same thing for any E-cocker. Sell a mechnical cocker, but throw some ram, noids, batteries, etc as "extra pieces".

This is kinda like how you can legally buy unassembled machine guns, or switchblades... or even bombs.

hmmm.... maybe I should patent my idea!
(evil "smart parts" grin)

Nick Brassard
NE Devil Dogs

[rpm07]

boycott stickers are ready

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=922678#post922678

[magnj]

Ok I called SP

The woman who answered said that she personnaly know nothing, just that there is some stuff going on and that SP klnow some rumors are being spread. She said that she has started receiving more calls and up to 200 emails a day about it. So people do know and are expressing their concern which is good. She also said that SP is going to release a statement within 2 weeks, addresing all of the rumors, what is going on etc. So we will have to wait I guess.

If you guys just want to call and let SP know that people are talking about it and they need to know what is going on that would be good.