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Smart Parts Patent Will Destroy Paintball! - Read!
Originally posted by Johnny_Reb
But look at the bright side, AGD will triple it sells of mags if electros do go down.
EDIT: By the way this thread should be stickied.
you think that its no skin of the tournaments backs?? Its bad for paintball its bad for them. period. If they win the price of marker will go up by $75, it wont be the end of electros.
ok u guys have no right for saying crap about smart parts they make great products let them do whatever they want to
yes it may mess with some other companys
yes agd has SOME good products i had a classic mag myself to start out with but it never worked when i wanted to.....no i am not flaming agd because like i said they do make some good products
but these companys should try and think of ways to beat this patent im sure tom can think of something amazing but im not a big agd lover such as u guys on here i am more of a smart parts lover ebcause their guins are really nice and have some awsome products
but anyways u guys should really not flame them because im sure if more iogers find this they will be talking about ti over there and both sites will get *POOF* up anyways STOP FLAMING SMART PARTS
im done
Then again it could be. An etra $75 bucks isnt much but look at how much electro manufacturers are panicing. When ppl buy and electro off online places like pbgear and see in bold letters "Extra $75 charged due to patent infrigement" dont you think that will discourage ppl from buying that product, I do.
If smart parts was indeed the first people to come up with an electronically triggered marker, and the invention is deemed non-obvious...
They're no more evil than Tom is with all of his patents. Patents are there for a reason, and if Smart Parts coming up with an electronically triggerred marker caused a whole bunch of other companies to do the same thing, then yes, all of those other companies who followed their lead owe smart parts some money.
Anyone tried to find a grip frame that extends more than 90 degrees forward for any marker other than an AGD one lately? Anyone wonder why Viewloader has not incorporated belt-drive technology in their hoppers?
cphilip - ...And again I am not allowing anyone to use the "well everyone else does it and gets away with it" excuse. Get used to it. Life aint always fair and this ain't no democracy.
Originally posted by logamus i dont think this is a joke, i just think that there are some out there that see a paintball world with no electros in it and arnt all that upset by it...
Well gee, nice way to look at it.
I could see businesses going under, people losing their jobs, and thousands upon thousands of players losing customer service of their electronic marker after their board fries and then needing to spend hundreds more since all they'll have is a paperweight.
Then again it could be. An etra $75 bucks isnt much but look at how much electro manufacturers are panicing. When ppl buy and electro off online places like pbgear and see in bold letters "Extra $75 charged due to patent infrigement" dont you think that will discourage ppl from buying that product, I do.
hah not someone who has heard that smartparts caused this... and it wont say +75 for patent, the companies will have to independently raise it.
also sp is overpriced as it is, so the playing field will be more "even" if anything.
Originally posted by Black_Dragun2578 ok u guys have no right for saying crap about smart parts they make great products let them do whatever they want to
yes it may mess with some other companys
yes agd has SOME good products i had a classic mag myself to start out with but it never worked when i wanted to.....no i am not flaming agd because like i said they do make some good products
but these companys should try and think of ways to beat this patent im sure tom can think of something amazing but im not a big agd lover such as u guys on here i am more of a smart parts lover ebcause their guins are really nice and have some awsome products
but anyways u guys should really not flame them because im sure if more iogers find this they will be talking about ti over there and both sites will get f***** up anyways STOP FLAMING SMART PARTS
im done
Originally posted by raehl (Or more likely, sell the markers without barrels, and then make Smart Parts enforce their patent against every player who adds one to their marker individually. )
I think thats a pretty good loop hole, even if the patent goes through.
Can they sue individuals for adding parts onto an electronic paintball gun? Even if they could, they're not gonna sue every individual player.
Even if the patent goes through, there will be loopholes.
thats a legit patent on an original idea. Smartparts does not have a legitimate patent. their obtaining of the patent was a mistake on the part of the US patent office.
Originally posted by raehl If smart parts was indeed the first people to come up with an electronically triggered marker, and the invention is deemed non-obvious...
- Chris
Thats a good point, except that PVI invented the shocker, and other electro patents predate the shocker anyway.
Same situation with the SP EC, Maxflow, Freak, and Impulse.
None were original, yet they have patents somehow.
Like I said before, the FTC shut down Adam Gardners patent scam that he was doing a while ago.
He is crooked and "knows the ropes".
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