Smart Parts Patent Will Destroy Paintball! - Read!

[Kai]

Reb is right, SP stands to make alot of money with this venture.

While we can all say that we will not uphold the electro scene if this goes down, I don't think we can speak for the hardcore tourney players.

They play to win. I can see most of them putting aside company loyalties and such in order to get the winning edge.

Still...this doesn't sit well with me. I can only hope that things go well for the rest of us, and SP loses the lawsuits.

We will just have to wait and see.

*Edit* This thread should be stickied.

[la690]

Was this situation talked about at IAO during the meeting of the industry heads? TK, oh noble leader, what can AO and the rest of the paintball community do to fight Smart Parts?

[cockermongol]

How will this effect eBlade frames? They are sold separately from the guns.

[GatoLoco]

Originally posted by WickedAirSportz
If the rumor is correct, it's just not $75 per marker. There would be a 1 millon dollar signing fee before any units could be sold at all.

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One million dollars!!!!!! That is utterly rediculous. By the time many of these companies cough up that money, they would be out. This is a dirty, dirty move, and I hope Smart Parts not only loses, but gets counter-sued!

[Harbinger[TG]]

Power to the People
Down w/ Smart Parts

I still dont see how they could even get a patent, must be some backasswards locale

[paintball man 222]

i have not read through the whole 5 pages, but what i know is you are not requiered to patent a name if you have used it for over 3 years, would the same apply to mechanical/computer patent?

[Prairie]

http://www.midatlanticpb.com/sp/

Freely distribute the contents of that page, rehost, do whatever.

If you have updated the package..send it, or a new one back to me.

[phatpat47]

They closed the thread at IOG, but I opened another:
OLD

http://www.impulseownersgroup.com/v...&threadid=22345

NEW

http://www.impulseownersgroup.com/v...&threadid=22357

johnny Im not going to argue anymore we have differing oppinions of what will happen, I guess we will just have to see.

But I do stand by what I said that Smart Parts will not controll the paintball market completely EVER.

[Mav D MagMan]

I dont' know if it's been said in this thread yet but if this goes through and kills electronic paintmarkers all I'll have to say is:

"...And they said mechanical markers were a dieing breed"

This isn't going to kill paintball (unless SP goes farther) it's just going to stunt it a little (until we find a way around it).

We've already survived how many years without electros?

Mav

[Johnny_Reb]

Well if you guys remember SP has been pushing for this for a long time. But look at it from their point of view: They invent the electro gun only to have others copy and make millions of dollars. You make the first switicable bore barrel only to have others copy it. You can see why there upset, put yourself in their shoes and think what you would do.

EDIT:

completely

Now I never said completely, I said they would have a firm hold on some areas of the paintball market but not a total monoply, but if you dont want to argue anymore I respect your wishes.

[robertjuric]

I wanna see how this pans out. Im all for a SP boycott, although not many people on AO use SP in the 1st place, but still.

Uhh...I dont know how to say this, but if we need any uhhhh taken out...pm me. :)

[Doc Nickel]

It's not "just" another $75.

If the rumor is true, and SP demands a $1Million licensing fee... well, as an example, if the company only sells 20,000 markers under that license, that's another $50 per marker, for a total cost increase of $125.

You know who pays that? You do. When you buy the gun. Increased costs of manufacturing are always passed on to the consumer.

How about those special-edition Timmies or C&C Angels? What if Delta has to buy another $1 Million license to make a run of only 400 Lasoya Intimidators?

That's $2,500 per gun just in licensing fees. What's a Lasoya going for, $1,600? That makes for a grand total of a $4,175 marker.

What if your only choice was a $3,000 Angel or a $750 Shocker 4X4 that weighs a pound and half more and gets a quarter the shots per tank?

This is a good thing?

Doc.

[jinxed]

Originally posted by DK1
here's a little fat for the fire... I posted it on the TG already.
How about detailed (even with ASCII art) instructions on how to build a electronically controlled paintball cannon from 1994? Btw, the person who posted that claimed to have just delayed the writing, but had the plans back in 1993.

Nice work!
Here are 3 posts about electros from 1994:
Electro Automag from 1994
Electro Cocker from 1994
A bolt-on E-GRIP from 1994

So, like you said...
"how about them apples!".

(By the way, I'm mentioned in one of those threads...)

Nick

[robertjuric]

SP invented the electro gun? Or did they steal it and got mad b/c everyone else follow suit?

[darklord]

Perhaps cockers and mags will dominate the scene once again?