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  • personman

    #31
    Lets start a petition on petitiononline.com saying that we want to overrule the SP patent?
    Is that possible? It would work I know it would if you passed it around all the internet fourms like PBN PBReview ect.

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    • FutureMagOwner
      Registered User
      • Dec 2001
      • 3354

      #32
      Originally posted by phatpat47
      now tell me if this is off, but someone once explained to me why disney had to sue a little kid for putting mickey on his website. They said that if they dont inforce their trademark or whatever that they lose the rights. Smartparts hasnt sued anyone up untill this point, dont they lose the right.
      sorta but it was just recently expanded which covers all electros from the sounds of it

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      • SyntaxError
        OSK #3
        • Sep 2001
        • 621

        #33
        After this, I would like nothing more than to see smart parts go down in flames.

        Is there any way that ICD can sue SP for ripping off the Bushy's design principles? Or AGD sue for the Max-Flo (which is a piece of trash by the way) copying the initial N2 tank designs?

        There's gotta be something that can be done to either make SP give up their ridiculous lawsuit. I'm sure that if we flooded their inbox with like 50,000 emails and letters and phone calls expressing our concern about this crap, we'd do something.

        This really needs to be organized, this isn't just another Smart Parts lawsuit, this one could seriously mess up the sport even more than it already is.
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        • phatpat47
          Registered User
          • May 2003
          • 77

          #34
          ohhh, well then I have no doubt that they will lose, given that they cannot infringe on others patents.
          http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=98408
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          • 845
            Banned
            • Nov 2001
            • 1809

            #35
            Man I should sit down and start patenting things. Then go on a suing spree!

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            • maglover52
              • Feb 2003
              • 1463

              #36
              dude screw smart parts they are gay.agd wdp intimidators and all those electros are way better than smart parts. no offense owners of smart parts products but thats gay.


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              • Hell's Oracle
                Registered User
                • Jul 2003
                • 2

                #37
                Hey Tom!

                Can't you do anything? The new 2k3 Shocker looks a lot like an Automag, in operation and looks, can't you threaten a suit as well?

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                • -Carnifex-
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1434

                  #38
                  Originally posted by magman007
                  Jim, apparently you are worried about this as well, I appreciate your concern and letting us know. You know the power of the AO army, and i think combined with others concerns expressed to SP and the eventual boycott of sp, wel cna convince them to give it the hell up.
                  I doubt it..
                  "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
                  - Karl Marx

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                  • phatpat47
                    Registered User
                    • May 2003
                    • 77

                    #39
                    Tom quick! patent the single tube body design!
                    http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=98408
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                    • AGD
                      The man from AGD

                      • Oct 2000
                      • 5916

                      #40
                      You all think this is a joke and that it can't possibly happen. There are threads on PBN right now saying the same thing. I can tell you with absoulute authority that SP has a very broad patent that covers everything that shoots paintballs with a battery. Go ahead and joke around about it I'm sure you will find it really funny in the end.

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                      • jinxed
                        resident old guy
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 92

                        #41
                        How can something like this happen?

                        The owner of Smart Parts is a corrupt patent lawyer, who has ran a "patent marketing" scam that the FTC shut down a while ago.

                        So, the Gardners obviously know how to manipulate the system. This is nothing new.

                        For one, Smart Parts doesnt have a single innovation in paintball. Every product has either been bought or stolen from another company.

                        Second, there are patents for electronic paintball guns that came out BEFORE the PVI Shocker.
                        There actually was an electronic paintball gun, designed by the Navy in the 1970s!! It even has an ACE on it!!
                        If that doesnt count, the CCI semi was out before the PVI Shocker, so there is plenty of prior art to show that Smart Parts is full of crooks!!
                        (well, lets just hope AKA and ICD have decent lawyers though).

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                        • phatpat47
                          Registered User
                          • May 2003
                          • 77

                          #42
                          sorry about the joking tom, but Im reading the thread at PBN too. The guy said that patents arent hard to obtain, and that that part doesnt mean anything. Good luck anyway.
                          http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=98408
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                          • manike
                            INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                            • Jan 2001
                            • 3820

                            #43
                            No joking matter!

                            As Tom says this is a very serious matter.

                            Big money has been spent on both sides of the current litigation and this looks to be only just the start of what is to come.

                            It's going to take a court of law to determine the future rights to the use of electro guns.

                            SP are out to control all electronic guns...
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                            • nippinout
                              FUSP
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 1231

                              #44
                              Very scary times.

                              Is this multiple suits? Are the companies pooling together their resources?

                              I know AKA was digging a lot and asking for help in finding old electros. I know he was asking the Tinker's Guild. Maybe we can see what other people from the different forums know.
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                              • Lohman446
                                Useful posts: 7
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 9315

                                #45
                                THis is not good - slightly off subject example (and likely over simplified).

                                TSR (produced Dungeons and Dragons) tried to sue an author over the use of the word "drow" arguing they owned the creation.

                                Tolkien (the estate) brought suit against TSR for the similarities between the halfings in DnD and the Hobbits.

                                TSR lost first suit, it turns out drow had appeared in a dictionary long before - then had problems with Tolkien.

                                Wizards of the coast bought the rights to DnD and TSR and promptly changed the description of halfings

                                :) Now that I've proven that there are things in my life besides paintball... is there anything that anyone can do to stop this? Does not the navy hold the patent on paintball guns? Has Smart Parts not stepped on intellectual property rights with the use of compressed air tanks in paintball.... Who can sue Smart Parts for violations of trade laws? Someone, somewhere, has to hold something on Smarts Parts? I mean, this patent they hold, can they prove that they developed rather than stole the fundamentals of it? Can the patent stand a legal challenge? AHH... someone do something... oh wait a minute... neither of my mags have batteries... no more electros - MAGS and COCKERS rule again... nevermind.. just let them be (jking, someone needs to do something).
                                "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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