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  • robertjuric
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    • Jun 2003
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    #136
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    • adam shannon
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      • Oct 2002
      • 805

      #137
      imo where patent law fails is when an outrageously broad patent claim is used to supress competition...or just for profit.

      as an example. there is a company in CA whole sole business is buying little known or used patents and trying to make them applicable to a wide scope and sueing and/or extorting people who use products that violate that patent...not the makers of the products...the users.

      they bought a patent that dealt with what is now e-comerce. ie. any digital means of making a monetary transaction. this patent was from the early 80's or late seventies and given up by the inventor because the concept was outdated by the time it was patented. they used it to sue small mom and pop websites who sell stuff online...not paypal, ebay, or online banks...the users because they dont have the $ to fight...they roll over and pay.

      now they have bought the patent on digital distribution of imagery. ie. jpeg, mpeg, qt, gif, any digital media format. this patent was filed way before there were any images on the precursor to the internet...just another idea patented and tossed in a file for future use. well this company bought it and are now sueing small adult oriented websites. why go after the little guys? why not sue apple and microsoft who make the tools to make and distribute digital images? because the little guys cant fight...and nobody in that comunity has or will get any public support or political help fighting the suits. so they have to pay 50% of their yearly profits or cease and decist using digital images.

      BUT the big plot is once the easiest victims have rolled over and the precident has been set that the patent is valid...then they can go after the multi billion dollar companies. thats the grand scheme and final goal. and why our patent system is really wacked. you can have a patent and just wait till the time is right to cash in.

      imo smart parts are looking to force everybody else to pay or go under leaving them at the top of the hill. this from a company who never invented anything for themselves. they bought or stole every patent they hold.

      they are after the big prize. if they win they can go after every company who ever made an electro. what they really want is the back damages...$75 from every electro sold back to the day of the patent filing. that would even hurt kingman!

      this is one fiasco that has to have bud sittin back on his harley chuckling.
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      • Pump Scout
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        • Jun 2003
        • 141

        #138
        Word is out. There have been posts on many of the boards I frequent, and we're telling everyone we know. Tippmann's forums, the Tinker's Guild, IPR, here, PBN. Keep spreading the word, both online and on the field. We don't have to take it, and we can voice our opinions with our dollars.
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        • Johnny_Reb
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          • Jan 2003
          • 407

          #139
          Good points Doc.

          I think it becomes obvious to us now that if SP wins this suit many companies will go out of business. WDP for their Angel, Bob Long for his Timmies, Kingman will lose a lot of money with the increased price of their electros which could result in them going out of buisness.

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          • Mav D MagMan
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            • Dec 2001
            • 669

            #140
            Sounds more like they were just the first to patent one with an on/off switch. Which screws the guys who were already maken em.

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            • phatpat47
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              • May 2003
              • 77

              #141
              exactly, I dont see how anyone can put a positive spin on this.
              http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=98408
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              • robertjuric
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                • Jun 2003
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                #142
                HAHAHA IOG is down, guess it got flooded. LMFAO
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                • robertjuric
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                  • Jun 2003
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                  #143
                  oops nvm guess i had bad link
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                  • Johnny_Reb
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 407

                    #144
                    Perhaps cockers and mags will dominate the scene once again?
                    Hmmmmmm or maybe not. If the electro market goes down you can expect to see alot of super semis go on the market. Super fast mechs that can compete with electros. Kinda intresting when you think about it huh?

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                    • No sKiLLz
                      NYX #16
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 930

                      #145
                      Originally posted by Johnny_Reb
                      They invent the electro gun only to have others copy and make millions of dollars. You make the first switicable bore barrel only to have others copy it. You can see why there upset, put yourself in their shoes and think what you would do.

                      Aiiiiiing!!! WRONG!

                      Do you read any other posts but yours? Who invented the electro? And who started the switchable bore? NOT SP. Looks like Navy started electros and OTP had sleeves first. BTW, my friend has a SP impy and it sucks.
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                      cphilip - ...And again I am not allowing anyone to use the "well everyone else does it and gets away with it" excuse. Get used to it. Life aint always fair and this ain't no democracy.

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                      • Harbinger[TG]
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 15

                        #146
                        I love all this crap from a company that wasnt even around for pumps and pistols...WTF they are like a 10yr old company

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                        • _Spork_1
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                          • Sep 2002
                          • 793

                          #147
                          Originally posted by PAINTMAN112


                          you said it yourself its a rumor, things like happen quite often in several industries, how often do the big companies win.. look at microsoft? if sp wins this patent lawsuit whocares they will most likely control the marker market via monopoly then get broken up that way. Sure they are wrong for doing this, but is it likely they will win no, and if its only a rumor why worry about it?

                          THE LAWSUIT ISN'T A RUMOR IT'S REAL, THE MILLION DOLLOR SIGHNING FEE IS.


                          this is something to worry about, if they got this far, whats to say they wont make it all the way(peopel saying that their patent is to broad and stuff)\



                          this is outrageous
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                          • phatpat47
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                            • May 2003
                            • 77

                            #148
                            iog not down there just closing all the threads
                            http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=98408
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                            • Johnny_Reb
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 407

                              #149
                              True No skillz but Shockers were the first to really catch on, and as most ppl see it they invented the first electro.

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                              • -=Squid=-

                                #150
                                Please dont tell me that I have to sell the freak for a pipe...

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