I think i am going to fry my warp, HELP

[emanjamin]

I just finished hooking up my intelliframe to my 12V rev and warp as of 4:11 in the the morning. I have a jack made for the the intelliframe to the warp. That was done before with no problems worked perfectly. I just hooked up my intelliframe to run the rev by intellifeed.

I have both the rev and the warp wires hooked up to the same roller switch in the frame.

Well everything is hooked up right on the intellifeed for the rev because I hooked it up without turning on my warp and it works fine, just as it should.

Because I had to hook one of my wires up to my battery, I decided to take a DMM and measure the voltage going to the warp jack.

I connected the DMM to my warp plug and without the rev on. This gave me a reading of .6 ohms (the resistance in the wires). When the rev is turned on however, it reads 18.3 volts (both batteries in series in the rev). That is with out pushing the switch. When the rev is on and running, not by pressing the switch but the photo eye, the DMM reads 3.75 volts. Either when the rev is spinning or not, when I close the switch the DMM reads 10.6 ohms (again the resistance in the wires).

So my question is, when I plug the jack into the warp and turn on my rev, is my warp board going to fry because of the voltage being too high? I can't test this right now because my AGD warp is at the factory, and the PTP warp that I have on my gun right now needs the jack for the external sensor to work.

Please anybody who has any experience with frying warps, fixing warps, and knowing everything about warps, or anybody with knowledge of electronics please help me. I don't know what to do.

I am pretty sure that I would be fine if I could hook up two roller switches to the frame right next to each other but they wouldn't fit in the frame.

Anybody? Please help.

(This is the longest post I have ever had and it is 4:30 in the morning!)


Oops, this should go in the tech forum, sorry.

[TheTramp]

Well, I'm not an expert in the electronics of the warp but I do know that 18V is not good for your Warp. People who have put 2 9Vs in series have put a 12V regulator into the line (info on this can be found in the tech forum)to get the boosted voltage without risking the board. Another option would be puting the 2 9Vs in paralell. While you'll only have 9Vs, the batteries will last much longer. I've got mine set up like this and it dorsn't seem to have any problem keeping up. Hope this helps.

[Shaft]

All this talk about putting batteries in parallel is bothering me. I've always been taught not to do this.

I understand that the goal would be to use the batteries as current sources.
9v don't generate gobs of current, but I would think all that is happening is one battery is charging the other.

It matters not really because batteries are cheap.

If putting them in parallel makes the batteries last longer does that mean longer than using two 9v one at a time?

[emanjamin]

No, I don't think you understand what I am saying. I know that the warp isn't supposed to run off of 18 volts and I am not trying to do that. The little silver jack that you would plug an intellifeed cable into on the side of the warp requires, I think a 5 volt pulse to turn it on and spin.

If I turn on my rev, I would have a 18 volt pulse going into the jack. I want to know if that 18 volts is going to damage my warp.

[TheTramp]

Well, you pose two questions/points.

1) Batteries aren't that expensive.
- I find 9Vs fairly expensive. I'm not saying the'll break the bank but when you are using 4 at a time it can get pricey.

2) Do two 9Vs in parallel last longer than using each separatly?
- To be perfectly honest, I don't know. I'm basing my knowlage on things I've learned here. I'd like someone to test this out. Granted it'll take a while but it would be good information to have.

Anyone have the answer to this?

[gimp]

well, I dont know about your question, perhaps Tom or Rob can answer it. But I do know that your warp will fry if you try to power it with 18 volts.

[TheTramp]

I did misunderstand where the 18V's were going. I def. wouldn't but 18V's into something that only needs 5V (but I could be wrong). With that said, I don't have any suggestion on how to fix this. We need to get someone who has done this mod to ecplain how they overcame the problem.

[BlackVCG]

It sounds to me like having hooked up one of the wires to the battery as you said you did is drawing an unregulated 18V. What would really help is if you could take a picture of your wiring harness and post it. Then I'd be able to see what's going wrong. There's a way to do this so that it all works properly, but I'd like to see how you have it setup right now and see where we need to start from.

[Shaft]

Originally posted by TheTramp
Well, you pose two questions/points.

1) Batteries aren't that expensive.
- I find 9Vs fairly expensive. I'm not saying the'll break the bank but when you are using 4 at a time it can get pricey.

I must clarify. A 9v is cheap in comparison to a bench top lab power supply. Hooking two powersupplies in parallel is an expensive experiment since this can break these supplies.
Hooking two 9v in parallel would hardly cost anything if they fried each other.

[TheTramp]

Good point.

I was thinking of a practical experement using the Warp and two (well 4) 9Vs. Once you start getting into power supplies I'll just follow the directions and not do any experementing of my own.

[Shaft]

The powersupplies work pretty good on the field, but the extension cords tend to give my position away.

[emanjamin]

I have pictures to put up but I don't really know how to get them up here. All of the websites that I use will give me their "Picture hosted by: Blah Blah"

Is there anybody I can send the pictures to have them put it up here?
Thanks

[Dubstar112]

you got aim? teamcolors30 and ill post them.

[Dubstar112]

there ya go.

[emanjamin]

Thanks Dubstar,
OK, The top picture is the one of the two wires hooked up to the revy, one is connected to the battery and the other is connected to the red wire, just as instructed from AGD in the other post.
#2 is a picture of my frame with both the intellifeed to the warp (green/red wires), and the (black) braided to the revy. There is a third wire going from the switch to the jack pictured, that wire doesn't do anything, it is just there so I could braid the other two instead of twisting them.
#3 is an upclose picture of the switch, both sets of the wires hook up to the same terminals of the switch.
#4 is the same picture as 3 just with the black braided pulled up so you can see the green/red (warp) wires.
#5 is just a picture of how the revy is put into place with the hook up.

So the question is, is the 18 volt pulse going to fry my warp board?

Thanks