I think i am going to fry my warp, HELP

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  • emanjamin
    I don't know what to say
    • Oct 2000
    • 203

    #16
    up.
    What has your elf done for you lately?
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    Hyper-mini-retro-warp mag w/: Proconnect : DZII : PE 88ci 3k : Full 14in Freak : 12 volt revy : Various parts painted metallic blue
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    • emanjamin
      I don't know what to say
      • Oct 2000
      • 203

      #17
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      BlackVCG, what do you see wrong with it?
      What has your elf done for you lately?
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      Hyper-mini-retro-warp mag w/: Proconnect : DZII : PE 88ci 3k : Full 14in Freak : 12 volt revy : Various parts painted metallic blue
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      • mykroft
        Registered User
        • Jan 2001
        • 2010

        #18
        Hooking up 2 batteries in parallel will NOT damage them, it will simply provide a longer battery life( 2x the mAH available, vs 2x the voltage in series). Some adjustable bench powersupplies can be damaged when put in parallel due to internal design, so read the instruction manual first before using them, it is simply a design issue, batteries cannot be harmed by being placed in parallel.

        18V= new Warp board, guaranteed to fry it, 12V is Max it can handle


        As to the Warp/E-Mag Bat/Revvy mod. The revvy will take 18V across the battery contacts no problem, as it has an internal 12V regulator(Main difference between it and a Shredder), the Warp needs a 9 or 12V reg though. simple way to do this is to go to Radio Scrap and get a LM7809 or LM7812 compatible part, and build the reference circuit that will be usually on the back of the box, with the 12V output being hooked up to the Warp. Note that this will hurt batterylife, as the reg will draw power as it uses heat to disapate the extraneous voltage. I'm going to design a better voltage reg for this mod, when I get the time, and my electronics gear down from my mothers, where it currently resides.
        2k2 VF Cocker, STO/Eclipse Blade, Old-Style 14" Boomstick,
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        • emanjamin
          I don't know what to say
          • Oct 2000
          • 203

          #19
          Mykroft,
          Where do I put that LM7809 or LM7812 regulator?
          I don't have a reference circuit. Do I just put it anywhere between the warp and the revy in my case?
          Thanks for the help.
          What has your elf done for you lately?
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          Hyper-mini-retro-warp mag w/: Proconnect : DZII : PE 88ci 3k : Full 14in Freak : 12 volt revy : Various parts painted metallic blue
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          • BlackVCG
            Grubby Owner

            • Oct 2000
            • 4956

            #20
            Here's the deal you basically have a parallel setup going from the Revy to the Switch and from the Warp to the switch. This setup will always cause the Revy to slowly spin with the switch open and once it's closed (pressed down) it spins the Revy at full speed. What I'm saying is that if you run two wires from th Revy directly to the switch and the same with the Warp, or you run two wires out from the switch and create a Y-Splitter to intellifeed both the Revy and the Warp at the same time, it will cause the Revy to constantly spin, but at a slower rate when the switch is not depressed. I've tried both ways and it doesn't work. The Revy will not stop spinning when the switch is open. I don't know what's going on because I haven't taken the time to figure it out, but it acts as though there's some voltage leak and it's going to the Revy causing it to slowly spin when the switch is not depressed. Press the switch and the Revy and Warp both spin full speed without problems.

            To be honest, I don't know of anyone that's been able to setup intellifeed to both the Hopper and the Warp from a microswitch in a mechanical gun. I did find a a way to wire it so that both spin at full speed when the switch is closed and when open both the Revy and Warp are not spinning. The only problem is, I never actually setup my gun with intellifeed for both the Revy and Warp. I just had a testing harness built up that I used to test it and see if it worked. It did work and voltages read right with the DMM, but I have no idea how well it will work when actually setup on the gun and used during play. I don't know that it works 100%, so I'm not going to tell people how to do it and then be responsible for any problems that result, because I didn't fully test it in the first place. My suggestion is to setup the hopper so it works off of the eye and just run intellifeed to the Warp. I've been running this setup for awhile and it works just fine. I've never been able to shoot fast enough to justify having intellifeed going to both the Revy and Warp. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I'm not going to comment on how I think it should be done, when I don't even know how it will work with prolonged use.
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            • emanjamin
              I don't know what to say
              • Oct 2000
              • 203

              #21
              Well thanks anyway BlackVCG.
              When my rev is turned on and the eye is blocked it won't spin, if the eye is unbocked it will spin. That is normal. If the rev is spinning and the switch is pressed, the rev will actually spin faster. You can easily notice this. Like I said before the DMM will read about 3 volts when the switch is closed and the revy already spinning. This means that 15 volts is going into the rev right? Why isn't it regulated like it is supposed to be? Is it becase the 18 volts is not going into the rev board when the switch is pressed but is going trough the switch directly to the red wire, I hooked the other wire too?

              How much voltage can the warpfeed take in the ittelifeed jack? I know it needs at least a 5volt pulse right? What is the max voltage it can take?
              Should I just put a resistor in the wiring going to the warp after the switch? Would that help?
              What has your elf done for you lately?
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              Hyper-mini-retro-warp mag w/: Proconnect : DZII : PE 88ci 3k : Full 14in Freak : 12 volt revy : Various parts painted metallic blue
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              • BlackVCG
                Grubby Owner

                • Oct 2000
                • 4956

                #22
                The Revy will work fine if it's just hooked up to intellifeed. If just one or the other is hooked up, they'll work fine, but once you have both setup for intellifeed the Revy will spin at about 5rpm with the switch open and full speed once it's closed. I'm not sure how much voltage can be sent through the intellifeed jack. With the jumper on (+) I think it's only 5V, but with it on (-) it changes to where the amount of voltage you have going to the board is what comes out of the intellifeed jack.
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