OFFICIAL Fantasy Emag Contest Q&A!!!!!

[shartley]

manike

BUT you can NOT use any part of the picture Tom posted as the Example and inspiration for this contest.

That does not say you can not use "parts" seen "in" the picture Tom posted... it says you can not use any part OF the picture Tom posted. It restricts the use of the ACTUAL graphic or parts of it that he posted, NOT the parts seen in it (if taken from other sources). It makes people have to do more than take an already started graphic (that Tom posted) and use THAT as their base image... this would not be allowed. People also can not take any PART directly from the graphic and use that either.

I hope that clears up that issue.

Yes, people can use the same parts SEEN in that graphic.. just can't take them FROM it. If you would like to provide the Members with base images, that would be wonderful. It would also be well within the rules.

Feel free to start a base image thread in Friendly Corner if you like. :) It will save some of the members much searching for good pictures to start with.

Thanks.

[Snappy]

Okay, I see that Tom said that they will be kept by AGD until the due date. I can't wait! This is so exciting! I feel like a little school girl! Okay, I'll stop.

[shartley]

BONESisAgod
Please delete your post (or a Moderator do so). I have already answered a question similar to your post. You are basically working around my answer to Phil about providing a description of the marker... it is not allowed. I hope you understand. If we allow you to post what you would like someone else to design, it will open the same thing up for everyone else, and we just can't allow that to happen.

Snappy
No pictures of ANY of the designs will be posted until AGD/AO staff posts the Official Gallery. The Gallery will not even be made until AFTER the submission deadline. Anyone who posts their graphics (on or off AO) will be disqualified.

I hope that clears things up for you. :)

[synreal]

all milling and coloring aside, would these new designs have to be able to prototyped from existing mag parts, or are we free to let our minds run free to create guns needing proprietary parts (different battery packs, altered valves, ...)?

i have no disturbing plans like magnetically charging the rounds for propulsion, but i would like to know how far we can safely stretch the existing tech level.

[shartley]

synreal
Welcome to AO! Now for your question.....

As long as the "stretch" is not greater than would be feasible to create (and have work) with current manufacturing equipment, YES, go for it.

New Battery packs, altered valves, etc. are not too far out to exclude them from the contest. Of course if you make a hydrogen powered unit, it WOULD be a bit of a stretch.

I hope this answered your question adequately. We are depending on a bit of self restraint and common sense for much of this. But if we get an entry that is over the top, we will let the designer know.

[AGDMINIMAGAGD]

Is there any place to find a kind of archive type thing of emag outlines to work with, im having trouble finding a starting point like an SFL or extreme body and warp feeds and triggers and such. I think manike said he knew somewhere, i think setting up an archive is a good idea, that way everyone kind of has the same starting point and can go where they want, otherwise, just a few tips would be really helpful, Thanks.

[shartley]

AGDMINIMAGAGD
Yes, Manike said he had a bunch of stuff you all could use. I think he will be making a central place to pull these images from, but I can not speak for him directly.

I can not offer any other tips or advice at this time without actually telling you what and how to do things. And that would just not be right. I CAN however answer questions about some things.... remember, half the battle in getting the right answers is asking the right questions.

Hope this helps.

[AGDMINIMAGAGD]

1st place gets an RT pro with warp, 2nd gets a warp and intelliframe trigger from triggernomics, and 3rd and 4th get a custom intelliframe trigger from triggernomics i believe, check down a bit, they have all the rules and such down there

[manike]

I'll post up links here to images I have of the extreme body. I am just (as I type this I am on the phone) in the process of getting the files required to model up the modules and battery pack. As soon as I have them finished I will add images of the body with the modules in place. Until then these may be of help.

http://www.automags.org/~Manike/emagside1.jpg

http://www.automags.org/~Manike/emagside2.jpg

My fantasy E-mag is not going to be just a fantasy :) I'm making it!

manike

[shartley]

Thanks Manike.

Guess you will win either way.

[InfinatyBPS]

So, By realistic you mean...

that we cant have it have wings and says it fly's and has rocket capabilities. I am wondering because that would be a fantasy.

[shartley]

InfinatyBPS
Are you serious? Come on now. Please read the rules and Tom's original post about the contest. Fantasy would also be a RP E-Mag that would allow you to not even be ON the field to play... but that is also quite obviously against the rules.

The only thing "Fantasy" about the marker is that is has not been made yet. The rules clearly define what is acceptable, if you use just a bit of common sense. You may stretch the capabilities, and design a bit to provoke thought, but the ideas can not be to far out there that they would simply not be feasible.

And please do NOT PM me about the contest again. This goes for everyone. I can NOT answer questions about the contest in PM or E-Mail. It would then open a flood of PM's and E-mails that is not needed and warranted. Also what if others had the same questions?

KEEP ALL QUESTIONS HERE ON THE Q&A THREAD PLEASE.

Thank you.

[cphilip]

And please do not use the report this post to a Moderator feature to ask contest questions. Shartley will not get them. All the Mods will and we will not answer contest questions. So ask all contest questions here in the thread.


However if someone gets out of line by all means let us know thorough that report the post feature.

Thanks

The Moderators

[shartley]

Some of you were asking for some Tips on what you should do. Well, here are a couple things to keep in mind when creating your Concept Graphics.

1) Most people know direct size comparisons of parts and equipment. So when putting together your various elements, pay close attention to this.

2) Angles make a big difference. Putting in the extra time to find elements that are close to the same angles will cut down greatly on your actual graphic creation time.

3) Just because it is not perfect, does not mean it will not win! And just because some parts don't quite work correctly together should not stop you from trying it out. It is a concept... remember that. Some leeway WILL be given in the "reality" department. Just use your common sense.

4) You have 3 weeks to complete your entry(s)... use the time. If you get stuck, don't get frustrated. Step away from it and relax. It is better to come back to it later and do a good job, than to push yourself and not get the results you are after.

5) How you display your Concept can often be as important as the Concept itself. Although this is NOT a display contest, you will find that graphics and ideas that are displayed well can often cover up little flaws. After all, you are selling your concept to the other AO Members since they will be voting on the entries.

I took a few minutes to work up a sample for you. Since I can not show you a concept marker without violating the rules, I went with a slightly different theme. Don't ask where I got the picture from, because it does not exist... it is a concept.

You will see that I covered a few questions with this sample design. The angles, the "idea", and the different paint jobs. Remember you can not submit the same marker with different color schemes or paint jobs as separate entries. This shows you one way you can display several different versions of the same item using one submission.

As you can see, I did not try to cover up the concept, just accented it a bit. I used colors and form to direct the eye to the object I want the viewer to focus on. I gave it all a bit of depth to make the viewer seem as if in some small way they were a part of the graphic... hey the MTS is coming out of the picture right?



There are MANY things you can do. And I only touched on a few of them. I hope this gives some of you some ideas, inspiration, or whatever. Creativity is the key... use it!

[zvanut]

I have a question,

Can i put two versions os a gun in one entry. like say 1 was warp feed body and the other was verical feed body (that is an example) so i dont have to go w/ two entries?